Unpopular Opinion: Liston beats everyone that came before him

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He clears, he bas better defense that majority of top guys then, a better jab, and probably hits as hard as Louis. Look at Ali vs Liston 2, forget about the knockout, just look at the footwork. That's a different version of Ali from the second fight. Joe Louis, Marciano, they're not beating that
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    It'd hardly be unpopular. The only guy I'd give a chance is Louis. At one point many experts did indeed consider Liston better than everyone before him.
     
  3. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Louis-Liston is the best heavyweight match up of all time.

    You know it.

    I know it.
     
  4. PrimoGT

    PrimoGT Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I think he beats everyone who came after, including Ali, prime for prime.
     
  5. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Louis is the only guy before Liston's time that still holds up by modern standards.
     
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  6. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Active Member Full Member

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    Honestly, I find this opinion very credible and I don't see any controversy in it.

    I would have the greatest doubts about Liston vs. Louis.
     
  7. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis is that only guy that I like over him. I like Joe's counterpunching and he had the size and power to hurt Liston for sure.
     
  8. Peteychops

    Peteychops Member Full Member

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    Could see Louis, and possibly Dempsey.
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No
     
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  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way Liston beats everybody that came before him. There were a ton of amazing fighters that came before him. Not just Liston, but no fighter in history beats everybody that came before them. Every fighter regardless of how talented will have a style they struggle with and Liston wasn't an exception to this rule.
     
  11. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Add Jack Johnson and 1 of those 3 is getting his hand raised, isn't he?
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I don't see any reason to favour Liston over Louis.
     
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  13. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Liston hits harder than Louis.
     
  14. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    Probably read better if you had put " imo " after your full stop, how can you tell , unless you have read that some HW had fought both, and picked Liston as the harder hitter, otherwise it's just your opinion, of which I have my reservations, not disputing that Sonny hit very hard, but when you factor in a punch from Joe, cracked, broke, dislodged, a vertebrate in Schmeling spine, plus the faces of Galento and Braddock after sharing the ring with Louis, the giants that were Simon and Buddy Bear being poleaxed by the smaller lighter fighter, I am not so sure Liston hit harder, then again that's just my opinion.
    stay safe WB, chat soon buddy.
    Mike.
     
  15. NewChallenger

    NewChallenger Active Member Full Member

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    I am a Liston fanboy and I agree.

    Liston just got unlucky in the era he was in
     
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