Unpopular opinion - Lomachenko is the most overrated boxer in the past decade

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  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder, Twink Davis, Price, Josh Taylor. Jared Anderson, Kell Brook, Michael Hunter, James Kirkland, Jarrett Hurd, Gary Russel JR, Robert Helenius, Kownacki. hell I can go on but to call a guy who won titles in 3 weight division including winning multiple titles at a weight he was way too small for, calling him the most overrated does not make sense.

    For me, Luis Ortiz takes the cake for me never accomplished anything of note, with a very poor resume for all the stupid hype.
     
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  2. Bornslippy

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    Nah he is underrated if anything. Really the only arguable loss on his record is Teo, and apparently he had a busted shoulder for that one. Then consider he isn't in his natural weight class, then consider his resume and achievements. Meanwhile we have people thinking that someone like Tank Davis or Haney is a great fighter. People talk about Lomachenko as if he has been exposed at some point. With the right politics around him he would still be undefeated.
     
  3. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    He is. But he's fun to watch. Very flashy and skillful but ultimately not as effective as other greats.
     
  4. Bornslippy

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    Who are these other greats who were more effective? I can't think of any fighter at that level who hasn't had trouble in fights or had close fights. At his peak with the succession of opponents quitting, Lomachenko was at a level of dominance at world level that only a prime Tyson, Pac or Roy Jones was at.
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, the most overrated for me, since he was seriously held up as a TBE. Still, a clear case can be made for him as top 5 of the post-PBF/Pac generation. But that's a long ****ing way from TBE.
     
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  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, the excuses he gets for stone cold ducks are hilarious.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was definitely overrated. The hype he got at the height of his career made him out to not be only the best of this generation but the type of generational fighter that rarely comes along and he simply never was able to meet those expectations and to be fair to him, the vast majority of the great fighters in history would fall short of such lofty expectations.

    I personally always thought Usyk was the better more complete fighter and I think that's proven to be the case. Loma is a great fighter, one of the best of this era, he just wasn't THE best and that's OK, he's had a career many would envy.
     
  8. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    Nah lomachenko is literally one of the best boxers ever. If he had stayed in the correct weight class he would have remained unbeaten. Teo bear him fair and square but loma shouldn't even been boxing at that weight he's too small
     
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  9. Mr Applebee

    Mr Applebee Active Member Full Member

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    He was a brilliant boxer and you probably only see him as overrated because his hardcore following hyped him up to the next Floyd or Pac, which he wasn’t.
     
  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Lomachenko has a case for being the best since Pacquaio. Although Andre Ward, Roman Gonzalez, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Naoya Inoue, and Oleksandr Usyk might contest that. Honorable mention to Golovkin, Lara, Crawford, and Ginger kid.
     
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  11. Roughhouse

    Roughhouse Active Member Full Member

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    Probably the most concise and accurate answer that can be generated to this question. Boom.
     
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  12. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I'm a huge fan and think he's an ATG talent - but his career has been pretty disappointing at the end of the day. We can talk about the weights he fought at, his age, etc., as if they excuse him of his losses... But at the end of the day - no one forced him to turn pro when he did, or fight at the weights that he did.

    Salido beat him, Teo outboxed him, if you dont believe Devin beat him, you have to admit it was a razor close fight (but I think Haney beat him, his dumb decision to coast in the last round probably played a role..) He's the only fighter ive ever seen who gets excuses for his losses that enable him to still be considered a top ATG... "He wasnt ready for pro style against Salido" "Teo was too big/he waited too long to get going" "Haney was a robbery (definitely not a robbery, it was a close fight however you saw it...)..

    Awesome fighter, super entertaining style, GOAT amateur, but his pro career is not that of a top tier ATG. He maybe could have been if he hung around lower weight classes longer, but he chose not to... and greater fighters have moved up and been more successful.
     
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  13. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't have 'American privilege' which is a massive element in this corrupt sport.

    Got overconfident and fought at a ridiculous size disadvantage, which was his own fault in a way.

    These two things hurt his legacy.

    But there's another element if we assume he is not on PEDs, since there are no real signs of this.

    The notion that there are all these great fighters who went up weight divisions NATURALLY and didn't come unstuck like Loma is an utter myth. All these heroes people have are almost all PED cheats and even if they haven't been busted it's plain to see. We know about Canelo. We know about RJJ. We know about Evan Fields. Pacman is an obvious unbusted PED cheat and that's why he could go up and fight bigger opponents and magically overpower them.
     
  14. ash234

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    Overrated :lol: every fighter may as well give up now if that’s the case.

    He’s an absolute genius.
     
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  15. Stonehands

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    This is what I am getting at.

    The other replies aren't so much worthy kf replying to since they just keep repeating the same thing - "such and such is more overrated"

    Well, there is thing called being held to a certain standard. If you're being hyped as this once in a generational fighter, best believe you're going to be compared to the likes of Pacquiao. If a player like let's say Mario Chalmers gets 20 in a playoff game, he will be praised non stop. However if Luka or Lebron gets 20 they will be ridiculed to all hell. I swear his Lopez fight was absolutely disgusting. So many excuses for him too.