Unpopular Opinion, perhaps? But Shawn Porter beats a prime Mayweather

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Post-Grandpa Maidana >>>>>>> Porter.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Floyd can't time people with counter punches? I'm pretty sure both Keith and Kell would shove their way to front of the line to be first to let you know that Floyd can do that, from every angle, moving forward or backward or sideways, better than either of them. Hell, than both of them combined.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I meant he can't deliver those punches with the same force. And he can't stand in there with the same physical presence as well.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well no, of course he wouldn't "stand in there"...that isn't what he does. He's a master boxer. And this is where we get into what HE can do (better than anyone) that Brook and Thurman on their absolute best day couldn't come even close to doing as well - especially with a relatively color-by-numbers swarmer like Porter. This would be matador versus bull. Except a particularly intelligent matador versus a bull of above-average size and strength (and sure, we can throw in speed and agility and athleticism all-around) but mediocre intelligence at best - by bull standards, no less!
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well you do kind of hate Porter's guts, so you might not be all that objective on this one.:lol: But Porter did run Thurman damn close, who we're both fanboys of, I had it a draw, and many others on the RBR had it a point or two towards Porter, it was truly a damn near impossible to score fight, and the only reason why Porter lost was because he was slightly troubled by Thurman's far superior to Mayweather's power and similar timing. Porter has mauled and beaten the hell out of Berto, Broner, Granados, Malignaggi and Alexander, all of whom aren't exactly walks in the park. He's not exactly the average fighter that struggled badly against Diaz anymore, sure he makes some of the same mistakes and smothers his own work and is far too reckless, but he negates most of those flaws with his sheer beast like physicality. The only guy to legit beat him is Brook, and cleanly, but Mayweather isn't the size of a Middleweight with Super Welterweight punching power like Kell. Its not out of the world crraaazzzyyy to think that Porter might do enough to win a 7-5ish decision on fans and some ringside observers scorecards at the very least.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I misremembered, I actually scored Thurman-Porter for Porter 116-112, Pinoy scored it for Porter 116-112 as well, moparfan had it 114-114 as did Pimp C. Although I left the it could also be scored 115-113 or 114-114 caveat.
     
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  7. CST80

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    That's also debatable since Maidana beat Broner 117-108/116-109ish and that's with 2 knockdowns, yet the correct score of Porter-Broner was 118-108 and that's with Porter being dropped. So Shawn beat Broner more decisively including being dropped than Maidana did when he was the one doing the droppingx2. Maidana-Broner was at times competitive, it could be argued Porter even won the round he was dropped in, that was as close to a shutout as you could get.
     
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  8. Robney

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    I agree he's a stylistic nightmare for Floyd, and I do agree he would probably win on a lot of fan and press scorecards, but I think it's unlikely he would get the judges' nod at the end. Politics would have prevented him getting that W over Floyd, making him another Castillo.
     
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  9. mark ant

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    Only ATG`s would have a chance wit Floyd, the two guys that beat Porter solved his style, Mayweather would adjust after a couple rounds and start seeing Porter`s weaknesses that were exposed in his losses.
     
  10. mark ant

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    Broner is a poor man`s Mayweather, he doesn`t counter out of the shoulder roll as well as Floyd.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    McGregor probably wasn`t as good as Porter but that fight still proved Floyd could come forward and over power a man that after the weigh in came in the ring at around 170lbs! Floyd`s body shots are lethal plus he may not have been a puncher at 147 in the same vein as when he was a deadly super feather but he did knock a good, rough come forward fighter like Hatton out impressively.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    From the clips that I just saw in the Thurman-Porter fighter fight I`ve seen Floyd do everything that Thurman did here specifically in the Cotto fight! Porter looked far more open than Cotto was vs Floyd.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Where did I say Broner was on Mayweather's level? I didn't. I was responding to IB saying Maidana was better than Porter, which I don't necessarily agree with.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Oh sorry. I disagree after seeing the clips of Brook and Thurman beating Porter he`s easier to hit than Madaina was vs Floyd.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Maidana would have probably been stopped by both Brook and Thurman, he was dropped by Khan, Ortiz and Josesito, which no one seems to remember, and hurt a few times by Soto Karass, he'd have been KO'd cold if he tried that **** with Kell or Keith. And now here you are kind of comparing Thurman and Brook to Mayweather....:lol:Neither are all that similar, close, but not quite.
     
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