Unpopular opinion. Smith vs Ryder was not a clear Ryder win.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ShovelHook, Nov 25, 2019.


  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I feel like if you're to post a thread like this, you've got to put up a scorecard broken down round by round. ;)
     
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  2. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    People giving Ryder rounds on the basis that he was doing better than they expected.
     
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  3. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Or better than Smith...
     
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  4. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps I will rewatch. I scored it clearly for Ryder personally
     
  5. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    I had it pretty close for the first half. But Ryder clearly bossed the last few pounds. In round 11 Smith was nearly gone.
    I get it that it wasn't a wide Ryder victory. But it most certainly wasn't a very wide Smith one despite the views of the expert (haha) judges.
     
  6. Manu Vatuvei

    Manu Vatuvei Active Member Full Member

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    I had 7 definite Ryder rounds (4,5,7,8,10,11,12) so for me it was anywhere between 115-113 to maybe 117-111 Ryder.

    One thing I will say is that I actually had it 3-0 Smith after 3 and I haven’t seen anyone else with that score. The punch stats (no I don’t trust them either) had Smith landing more in all 3 rounds as well so I don’t think I’m being totally outlandish.

    But anyway, those rounds were close and I could have had it even wider for Ryder.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I predicted Ryder would win and the method of how he would accomplish this, so I wasn't wowed that he was doing better than expected. The people who scored it for Ryder, scored it for him because he won the match. Not to mention that most of the people who scored it for him were logical fair posters who aren't prone to overreacting and handing in bad scorecards.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No need, you were right the first time.
     
  9. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    100 percent agree. I scored this fight a draw. What I watched was a close fight that could have gone either way. In my view, the wide scorecards for Smith prompted all the outrage.
     
  10. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah its easy...Rematch asap!
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I nearly bit my tongue off the other day, holding back from telling you what a terrible scorecard you turned in. Easily one of your worst.

    @IntentionalButt we need your scorecard to add to mine, to help completely destroy this brewing idiotic narrative from taking hold.
     
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  12. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    Smith had a very good start. He clearly deserves rounds 1, 3, 5 and 6. He can also be given the 2nd. But Ryder has largely won the rounds 4,7,8, 10,11 and 12 and we can perfectly give him the 2 and 9.

    The worst is that the judges give 8 to 9 rounds to Smith.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ok, I watched it. I had it a draw. Ryder's punches were mostly blocked over the first 3 or 4 rounds. Callum did himself no favors by getting his ass kicked in the last two rounds.

    It pretty much confirms that Canelo would eat Smith.
     
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  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    idiot
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Bullying and pressure are not the main scoring criteria. Clean punches is what matters.
     
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