Unpopular opinion - Wilder to become first undisputed champion since Lewis

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  1. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I stand corrected, (in my defence I did say "about")

    The actual average was FURY LANDED 1.08 MORE PUNCHES PER ROUND according to Compubox.

    So he landed less than I gave him, and was getting bounced up and down. Effective punching was done by Wilder.

    https://www.*******.com/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-compubox-punch-stats--134262

    Be a man or woman and accept the facts. The ref saved Fury's career!
     
  2. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    I am a man, unlike you, being the other word used for kitty. So on average, Fury outboxed him, we also consider all the criterias where he initiated the game and thus we've a close win for Fury because he was twice in a knockdown. Result: the judges desperately saved Wilder, but he got what he deserved.

    CompuBox, you Mr. Clueless, is just stats round per round, so even if you land more shots, but you win less round - you lose the fight. But Wilder landed less, regardless if you dream about some "effective" or not. And I have a surprise for you, one you'll suffer to understand: CompuBox is never considered a criteria for a reason, plus go check what it really is.
     
  3. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Haha, Its not the playground!
    I acknowledged my error, Fury outlanded Wilder an average of 1 punch per round not 2. I thought Fury did better.

    If you are claiming Fury outboxed Wilder, I'm assuming this is based on punches landed? As this was his game plan in the fight.
    As per compubox, and my eyes, it was not many. An average of 1 per round. At this stage, Fury was tapping and had no power in his shots. This 1 extra punch was not EFFECTIVE.

    It's not amateur boxing, effective punches count more than pitty pat ones. This is the hurt business.
    Wilder did more damage to Fury in fight 1...FACT!
    Fury did more damage to Wilder in fight 2 and 3...FACT!

    OK so here is how many Fury out landed him RBR (as irrelevant as it is, but combats the notion of this master mind out punching another)
    2, 2, 5, 2, 1, 2, (-2), 1, (-6), 9, 1, (-6).

    I understand how scoring works pal, Im trying to talk on your level that Fury outboxed Wilder by outlanding him.
    Where is the basis for this claim?

    No heavyweight in history has won a championship fight after getting dropped twice and saved by the ref!!

    Wilder landed the most effective shots, Furys 13 extra punches were irrellevant to the fight outcome.
    You conclude "close win for Fury" and "judges desperately saved Wilder"...make your mind up...was it close or a desperate robbery?

    Also, as you said I dont know the rules of boxing and I'm clueless etc, on what criteria do you score fights if you dont base it on:
    - Effective punching
    - Controlled Aggression
    - Defence
    - Ring Generalship
     
  4. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    There're no special rules for championship fights, respectively, if you lose 3 rounds, two of which via knockdowns, you end up winning with 115 to 113. You obviously are that incapable, that you end up with "Wilder landed more effective shots" and "Fury outpunching him is irrelevant", yet you pretend you know the rules and the scoring:clapclap:. You are biased at best, but I doubt that's the case.
     
  5. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not saying Wilder only won 3 rounds based on Compubox. It is you saying Fury outlanding him by 1 punch per round is a winning round.

    I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying as you are struggling to teach me on what criteria rounds are scored. Any update on that?

    To be clear and cut to the chase, do you claim that if you outland your opponent by 1 punch, you win the round? On this basis, Fury won the majority of rounds and Wilder only won 3.
     
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  6. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Exactly...when I said "the only way I can see" I was thinking more about a 1% chance LOL
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Fair call hahaha..........tho 1% might be overs :D
     
  8. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Dreaming. In both fights to follow he was ahead on points at the time he buried Wilder. It's not rocket science.
     
  9. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    You are correct.
    I did mean he hasn't improved as the Ben Davidson style he had, trying to out land his opponent more than trying to hurt them.

    Now he tries to beat people up, which is boxing I like.
    Real boxing, scores points through winning rounds on effective punching, controlled aggression, and ring generalship.

    It was an incorrect/accurate statement from me
     
  10. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a very possible scenario. Boxing fans don’t like to admit it because of this weird top trumps way of rating fighters which somehow diminishes legit KO power.

    I swear there is a SLEW of posters on here who genuinely believe winning a fight on points up to the point of getting knocked out cold means something.

    Wilder can put USKY to sleep in an instant, and you can be sure he can put Fury to sleep, he almost did it four times already.

    Boxing doesn’t get any more conclusive than a KO yet you’ll still have posters on here saying “yeah but his technicals are terrible” whilst USKY is convulsing on the canvas.

    Top trumps fans I call ‘em.
     
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  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Because he'd actually have one, then... :razz:
     
  12. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    Only one remark: Wilder can't put Fury to sleep, it turns out that this man, no matter how hard hit so far, has a terrific will to continue which kind of makes it equal to if he had a granite chin. He had the chance three times, hurt him badly, but didn't knock him out. Otherwise, everybody can knockout everybody if given enough opportunities to try.
     
  13. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Fury is playing with fire if they ever end up making Wilder IV. I predict fury's chin finally runs out of road in that fight.
     
  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Wilder has the mark of the devil which cannot be removed Fury was resurrected by god himself to ensure good would prevail over evil. Fury himself guided by jesus was sent to try and save Wilders soul but it's been lost to evil.

    There will be no end to Wilder's terror unless Fury comes back for a 4th time and sacrifices himself to save us all once and for all.
     
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  15. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Fury is a false messiah for you hahaha