Unpopular opinions

Tyson Fury is the GOAT and anyone who thinks otherwise should be dealt with

 

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People greatly overesrimate Hagler size compared to modern fighters who cut water weight before every fight.

 

On the topic of Hagler, the narrative of some is Leonard gained some kind of unnatural edge in negotiating for their fight to be 12 rounds.

Fact is, Hagler hadn’t fought a schedule 15-rounder in 2 1/2 years at that point, against Hamsho the second time. Fifteen-round fights were well on the way out by then and were the exception more than the rule. Hagler vs. Mugabi and Hearns, his only two fights between Hamsho II and Leonard, were scheduled 12-rounders.

If 15 was so important to Marvin, he’d have insisted that Hearns and Mugabi be scheduled for 15 instead of 12.

I consider this to be more of an unpopular fact rather than opinion.

 

Hagler had far better offensive skills than Floyd and no way could Floyd deal with a great jabber like Hagler who had a 75 inch reach, Floyd would have to get past that jab to get inside.

Pretty much describes Wlad.

 

All the great champions have been doped since the 80s.
You just have to see the difference in bodies between the boxers of the 60s-70s and those of the 80s-90s to understand it.

 

Yeah, but headhunting/clinching a guy with 2x your physical strength, 20 pounds on you, and 4 inches of height/reach clearly means you have the stylistic disadvantage. Also Wlad had one of the best left hooks in history easily, and Ali is known as having a weakness to left hooks, being dropped and badly injured by Bivol sized (but less skilled) Henry Cooper. If somebody with a chin as good and as skilled as he was can be caught that off guard by a left hook, anybody with an ATG left hook is going to be a huge issue for him.

 

My amateur estimate (I rate my boxing knowledge 2.5/10(rated on this forum)) is 85% - 15% for Fury.
That's what I judged in a story with a friend; so I thought.

The most unpopular option: "Mike Tyson was nothing special."

 

My contribution to this thread...
If boxing had been officionated fairly, Ali would have been a mere outsider or maybe never have been in the discussion of being the greatest heavyweight.

 

Marvin Hagler is overrated
Sugar Ray Leonard beat Hagler 9-3. It wasnt a close fight. Maybe 8-4.
Larry Holmes is the best Heavyweight ever
Mike Tyson is the most overrated boxer ever
Deontay Wilders H2H ability is underrated.
Both Canelo vs GGG fights were draws.
Sugar Ray Robinson's H2H abilities are greatly overrated.
Most people that say that Sugar Ray Robinson is the goat just say that because they feel they are supposed to. Same with Ali.
I agree with OP Anthony Joshua beats Tyson Fury.
Manny Pacquiao is the reason why the fights with Floyd Mayweather didnt happen in 2010, not the other way around.
Far too much is valued in the boxing history when these experts make these all time great lists. Many recent fighers should be ranked higher.
Deontay Wilder is the hardest puncher in boxing history
The top 90s heavyweights were great but most of those contenders are overrated
Riddick Bowe wouldve beaten Lennox Lewis had they fought in 93
Antonio Tarver would always have had the edge over Roy Jones even if it was prime Roy Jones. Styles make fights.
John Ruiz is wrongly overly criticized and should be celebrated more for being the massive overachiever that he was.

 

Which fights are you referring to?

 

I'm not going to argue about opinions but objectively Mayweather said that even if Pacquiao submitted to all terms he wouldn't fight him until 2012 because he wanted 2010 and 2011 as a break.

 

Norton 2 and 3, Frazier 3 and Cooper 1 for instance.

 

Ali is very beatable by todays HWs.