I dunno mate i know its boxing and the point is hit and dont get hit but that shot was freakish in power and Watson should have done more to avoid it. If he had of done, the fight was in the bag.
I have to give Eubank credit. Watson was better than ever that night, and Eubank raised his game and found that 'freakish power' to claim victory. (At a terrible cost, of course.)
Well I think the point of the thread is that these opinions won't be justifiable in the normal way. It's fair to say that Eubank was better than Watson, of course, but there is an "unusual" opinion to the contrary. Mine runs like this. Watson won the first fight clearly in the view of the ringside press and Watson felt robbed. He sincerely thought he'd won that fight. During the second fight, though he was clearly dominant in a way I would suggest he wasn't in the first fight, he felt in danger of being robbed again - so although he felt he had it in the bag he took an uncharacteristic and unnceccessary risk in charging a clearly beaten Eubank in that fateful round. Also, the best boxing any of these ever displayed war Watson in Eubank II.
I thought he won the first fight too. They were the days, 14/15 years old getting pissed on cheap booze and watching the boxing on terrestrial tv. Der der der der derrrrrr der der der , or summat.Benn was always my favorite, still is but got mad respect for Watson during his career and he's still a legend after his injury.Proper geezer.
I did change what i wrote but yeah, Holy seemed to have studied tyson down to a T AND Holy had the atrributes needed to beat Tyson, mixed together of all the heavyweight greats, Holy had Tysons Kryptonite. However Holy knew, standing and just trading with tyson means a short night. So he boxed, pushed, clinched and wrestled his way to a good victory. He hit tyson enough to get his respect, but didnt stand around for too long for Tyson to react. I can just see Bowe coming in with a macho chip on his shoulder, trying to go toe to toe with Tyson and getting caught. Tyson would have more trouble finding Holyfield than he would Bowe, Marciao, Frazier etc
Tyson as he was when he actually fought the older Holyfield in 1996 and '97,or when he was in his prime ?
Ray Leonard would've beaten Thomas Hearns had they fought at the 154 lbs division.He still had enough heart and juice to get the job done.
D ray Leonard who stopped Benitez , Duran and Hearns @ 147 would have lost 2 each and every 1 of d same versions he stopped @ 154 . Same with Leonard vs Kalule @ 160 instead of 154 . Same if Leonard fought d same Hagler 4 15 rds (which benefited him so much against drained Hearns & drained and unfocused Benitez) in a normal ring with normal gloves . If he was injury free and hadn't been fouled , Davey Moore of d Duran fight would have beaten Duran as Xpected . George Foreman of d Ali fight stops Ali in a normal ring under normal conditions . D same versions of Barkley that lost 2 Duran & Benn @ 160 beats both Benn & Duran @ 168 . D Nunn whom Toney stopped @ 160 outpoints him @ 168 . D Toney who lost 2 Jones @ 168 gives him a tough fight and possibly beats him @ 175 . D Tarver & Johnson who stopped Jones @ 175 , repeat it @ 190 . D Barkley & Charles Williams whom Toney stopped @ 168 , last d distance with him @ 175 . Sam Langford's resume is overrated because : 1) he did not stop equally sized and smaller men such as Sim Thompkins , Joe Walcott & Joe Gans and was even stopped by Thompkins . 2) Blackburn was not d only fixed fight in his record , far from it , and I believe that at least some of his impressive on paper stoppages were fixes as well . #2 holds 4 at least most if not all of d "greats" of d past , and possibly 4 a few of d more contemporary although it is at least usually more available 2 c & judge .
Collins was more shot than Eubanks by d time they fought . Collins was probably even more shot than Benn by d time they fought . Collins fought d highest caliber of opposition than them all , and did d best against it . Eubanks KOd Watson , what more can u ask . Watson was also KOd by McCallum . Eubanks' only stoppage loss was due 2 cuts and he did fight Benn*2 and Watson*2 . Benn was just about getting stopped by McClellan as soon as d 1st rd , b4 3rd rd's start at least , but d criminal ref kept saving his s . McClellan was a puncher who feasted on punchers : Benn , Jackson & Mugabi . McClellan TKO1 Benn 4 me . Barkley was drained 2 death vs Benn , 3 KD rule or not , Benn would have destroyed that version of Barkley in d UK yep) anyway . Benn actually beat no1 of note during his career that should count . Maybe Henry Wharton but i haven't watched it yet . Maybe David Noel , but again , maybe he cheated there as well . These R possibly , and just possibly @ d moment 4 me , Nigel Benn's greatest wins (?) .
Boom Boom Mancini would beat a lightweight version of Salvador Sanchez, who would probably bite off more than he could chew at that weight class.
Unpopular opinions about unification bouts that never happened in the 1970's and 80's... * Samuel Serrano gives Arguello fits in much the same manner that Fernandez did when they fought. if Arguello wins, he;s coming from behind to do it. * Saoul Mamby gives Pryor fits in a junior welterweight unification; and since it was virtually impossible to stop or even floor Mamby in his prime, I'm picking him to pull off the upset by UD.
I was going to say just and Frank for his opinions and those would probably be unusual enough for you... but I see.. he already listed some..