Update on Tyson Fury training comeback

It's okay to like a fighter or dislike a fighter.
But the double standards are obvious when reasons stated by some people here for hating one fighter they would never apply to another fighter.

I'm a fan of Joshua and Fury too.
Haye I don't really rate but I certainly don't hate him.

All these boxers deserve credit for actually going out and achieving something in a very difficult sport.

 

1. David Haye destroyed his own credibility by talking himself up, putting everyone down, losing badly to Wlad and making dreadful excuses about his toe. Last time out, he lost to a guy he said he was probably going to kill in mismatch-fashion. That's where the large part of criticism for Haye comes from.

BY the same token, Tyson Fury does deserve some criticism for failing to live up to his promise SINCE defeating Wlad.

2. I don't agree with your so-called "Fury fans" who hate AJ and judge or label him, but the thing is: By the mainstream media, the public image built around AJ is of a pure "nice guy", almost squeaky clean ..... whereas Tyson Fury's been painted as a nasty hateful villain.
Neither of them should be judged too harshly. Neither of them are perfect either.

3. The anti-gypsy hate is real. We see the comments all the time, the "jokes", the abuse vented at Fury is very often in the form of bigotry against travellers. This isn't even debatable.

Only very occassionally do I see anti-Haye or anti-AJ having any sort of racial dimension, and when it happens it is obvious and most decent people will see it for what it is. It's called out straight away.
On the other hand, anti-Fury comments are commonly anti-gypsy and people turn a blind eye or "join in the joke".

 

Selling drugs is far worse than someone possessing them for their own use. One action only harms oneself, the other solely harms others while profiting the dealer.

 

Tyson Fury did not have it all. He had the belts sure, but he has never had the support and backing of the British public.

Of course he has to take responsibility for her demise but lets not pretend that both Joshua and Fury are treated the same way as Champions.

You only have to look at the way the IBF did not hesitant to relieve Fury of the belts even when he was obligated to meet contractual rematch clauses with Wladimir. Yet they pardoned AJ from having to fight his immediate mandatory in Pulev so he could honor the same rematch clause with Wladimir

 

Peter Fury served his time anyway.
Almost everyone who listens to him acknowledges him as a reasonable voice within the boxing community so I don't why his criminal record gets brought up at all.

Just like Anthony Joshua, until events occur to prove otherwise, he deserves to be treated as a man who made his mistakes, paid the price and has gone straight.

 

Pretty much this.

I actually thought he conducted himself very well in defeat to Bellew, he made no excuses. Shame about his fans.

 

Haye actually got more credit and kudos from fans in defeat to Bellew, the way he showed b*llocks in carrying on for as long as he did and the way he spoke after the fight.

Prior to that, he was the loud-mouth who didn't back his words up against Wlad & got his toe out in defeat.

He does need to write the wrong against Bellew though.... and rightly so, Bellew is now the one who gets to call the shots.

 

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Ha ha class interview with Peter. Tyson is something else isn't he, I love the man!

 

Team Fury never requested an exemption from the IBF, Matchroom did. Team Fury dropped the ball. Fury is not treated the same way as a champion, because of HIS actions. He is not a victim.

 

1. Haye did destroy his own reputation with performances and the way he has acted in certain situations, he bought it on himself which I said.

2. I agree, neither are perfect but Anthony Joshua is more of a professional than Tyson Fury and he should be viewed as such. He takes the sport more seriously, and he should be viewed in a better light because of that. Deep down I don't think Fury is a bad guy, but some of the things he has said should be scrutinised and questioned.

3. Again, I agree, certain sections do bring up Fury's traveller background but its clearly not that big of an issue. How many people do you see bring up Andy Lee's background?

 

Sheer and utter nonsense.

The Fury camp appealed the decision yet the IBF were firm and resolute with establishing the rule that Fury would have to either fight his mandatory Glazkov or the moment he signed to the rematch with Klitschko he would be stripped of his belts with immediate effect

This is what the IBF dictated to Fury with no other option

"To be clear, Tyson Fury must fight Vyacheslav Glazkov next," the IBF chief [url]told World Boxing News[/url]. "If they agree terms before December 11 we cancel the purse bid. If it goes to a purse bid, the winning bidder has 90 days to do the fight. Regarding the Klitschko rematch taking precedence, it's just the opposite as the mandatory takes priority of the re-match.

"In fact Rule 3B Return Bout states: No contract for a Championship contest shall contain any clause or provision, whatsoever, guaranteeing or in any way assuring or promising either contestant a return Championship contest where such clause or provision interferes with the mandatory defence of the Title."

Do you understand what that means? That there are no exemptions from this rule, so it should have been enforced for Joshua and no Eddie Hearn talks should have swayed the matter in their favour. The fact is the Fury camp where not given such an option, they were only given threats..

This isn't about claiming he is a victim, which neither I or anyone else has implied. You claimed that Tyson Fury had everything and threw it away. I have challenged that on the basis that he did not have the British public or the sanctioning bodies on his side as we can see the blatant double standards when it comes from organisations that should be impartial.

This is another reason why Fury got done for roids, while Joshua is free to pump insulin and HGH through his veins while running various cycles, with full impunity

 

You need to get your facts right.

The FACTS are that there was no mando in place for AJ before he signed the contract to fight Wlad. He also got permission to have a rematch clause in his contract from the IBF before it was even signed. TF didn't.

Your vile racially motivated hate for AJ is getting embarrassing, you really do seem to be mentally ill.

 

You wretched fool. You have no idea what you are talking about and again resort to unfounded slurs.

It is better for you to limit yourself to calling others alts and racists rather than attempt to actually debate with me.

Now lets get the facts straight, not the ones pulled out of your backside. Eddie Hearn expected Joshua to be stripped of his belts when the mandatory conundrum was set. So how on earth did they receive the IBF blessing concerning the rematch if they were expecting to be forced to fight their mandatory? And why would Matchroom request for an exception to be made?

This is from April

"We're going to get the problem of multiple mandatories coming up (if Joshua wins)," he said. "So after this fight, AJ's mandatory defence is against Kubrat Pulev with the IBF. At some point, maybe not next, but probably this year, the WBA mandatory will be Luis Ortiz."

According to Hearn, Joshua may have to vacate one of the belts.

"Quite possibly unless a deal can be done," he said. "It's not really a concern right now. I'm not really concerned about belts. I'd love Anthony Joshua to have all the belts, but as Tyson Fury found out, that's not really possible. The same thing which could happen to AJ happened to Tyson Fury. His mandatory was due, he wouldn't fight his mandatory and he lost the belt."


Joshua was officially granted temporary pass by the IBF last month on the 7th June 2017. He's also been given permission to avoid Ortiz. Two mandatories he has been allowed to skip. And there are people here who believe Fury had the same choice when the IBF couldn't wait to strip him for missing just one mandatory?

This is the reality, and if it is racist to point out facts and put right stupid fools who tell lies and make up facts, then I'm a hardcore racist.

 

The biggest problem with the Tyson Fury IBF case is this :

Why did the IBF sanction the Wlad-Fury fight knowing there was a rematch clause in the contract ?

The answer is two-fold:
1. They wanted Fury and Wlad to pay the sanctioning fee.
2. They expected Fury to lose anyway.

The IBF are crooks.