Updated P4P list...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Chicano, Feb 27, 2018.

  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C AHHH HA

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    1.Loma
    2.Crawford
    3.Canelo
    4.Thurman
    5.Sor
    6.Garcia
    7.Inoue
    8.Spence
    9.Usyk
    10.AJ

    Others
    Saunders Gassiev
     
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  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    I think this might draw some (hundreds) negative comments, although I think that may be the intention haha
     
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  3. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    Not a bad list at all, alot better than I was expecting.

    My own would look something like.

    1. Lomachenko
    2. Golovkin
    3. Crawford
    4. Canelo
    5. Rungvisai
    6. Usyk
    7. Garcia
    8. Thurman
    9. Kovalev
    10. Inoue
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C AHHH HA

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    LOL but not really. It's who I feel are the P4P best right now.
     
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  5. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I value the 0 a lot

    Guys like Mikey/Bud/Keith never loss

    Counts for something
     
  6. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    To me, top 6 are clear

    7-10 is tough, you can go a lot of diff ways
     
  7. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still don't understand why people have Inoue in their top ten. Who has he beat? No-one, that's who. And the same applies for Crawford to an extent. Only reason he deserves top 10 is the fact he had all 4 titles at 140lbs and beat a scottish bloke and also beat the guy who beat the scottish bloke. And spence doesn't deserve to be top ten yet either. Beating someone who fought with one eye is nothing to brag on about. He was getting outboxed by Brook before the injury kicked in during the 7th. And peterson lost to 3 of the 4 top fighters he fought before fighting spence, that's nothing to brag about either. And you could also argue that peterson lost to Khan and that Khan was robbed that night.
     
  8. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    That's the thing though, the parameters are arbitrary. Some people include fighters based on perceived potential too. As in, "I think he can currently beat X,Y and Z so deserves this spot". It's terribly difficult to argue about
     
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  9. Sandman_

    Sandman_ The Phoenix flew & the Big Fish knew Full Member

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    Parker always wins the close ones.

    Andy Ruiz is the Mexican Mike Tyson. Who else has got within a bull's roar of him?

    Parker's performance against Big Cat Fury was a masterclass of pressure fighting against a reluctant opponent. You only saw what went on in the ring that night. The lengths Parker had to go to in order to flush Big Cat out of his dressing room were astonishing. FOTY right there.

    And Parker was playing with a stacked deck that night. To win on points in those circumstances was nothing short of phenomenal.

    Not even GGG could overcome a stacked deck.
     
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    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Lomachenko
    2. Crawford
    3. Inoue
    4. Mikey Garcia
    5. Kovalev
    6. Estrada
    7. Sor Rungvisai
    8. Spence
    9. Rigondeaux
    10. Canelo
     
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  11. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    C'mon man, don't be such a GGG hater. You know I am an objective Golovkin fan but he beat Canelo on 70% (ballpark) of the public's scorecards and doesn't even crack your top 12? LOL. Stop it, just stop it. :)
     
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  12. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    So wouldn't that mean you have Charlo in there somewhere? You said recently he beats GGG easy. Surely that counts for something, like it does for Canelo?
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    LOL having Keith Thurman higher than Gassiev and Usyk.
     
  14. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    0 in the loss column can mean a lot of things. It doesn't always mean the fighter has taken on and beaten the best of the best.

    I am a huge Mikey fan but his recent resume (last year or so) is not as quality as Sor Rungvisai. Same goes for Thurman over last year and a half.
     
  15. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he's trolling for reactions.