Upon review, Deontay is the HARDEST PUNCHER EVER

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  1. DodgySyrup

    DodgySyrup Member Full Member

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    The point is they were;

    A) Among the highest ranked at ths time

    B) Taken despite AJs relative lack of experience

    Wilder, by contrast, doesn't even have any of those "B list fighters" on his record.

    95% of his victories have been against D listers, the guys ranked 50th or worse, and similarly low quality types.
     
  2. DodgySyrup

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    Even when the evidence proves otherwise, you still state he has this "freakish power".

    Let me ask you, do you agree that you judge how hard a guy hits by the guys he knocks out?

    Example;

    If I can knock out 80 year old granddads who weigh nothing and can barely walk up a flight of stairs, do I possess "freakish power"?

    If you said yes, and then i fight guys my own age, size, experience, and don't have quite the same success, would it be fair to say that my level of opposition has exposed my lack of power?

    When Wilder knocks out legitimate world class guys, and does it consistently, I'll buy into the narrative.

    Unfortunately, however, as he spent so long taken easy fights against bums, he's now approaching the tail end of his career and time is running out.

    Which is how he has liked it all along.
     
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  3. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i shoulda fully expected a witless cop out. u got the analytical skills of an amoeba.
     
  4. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Evidence? You mean the highest ko % in HW history? Dont give me no bs about who he has or hasn't fought. You fight who you fight and most world class fighters with high ko rates get most of those against B level opponents not usually other elite guys. Sure it happens but at a far lesser rate. This dude is usually off balance and basically throws arm punches with not much body behind them and still drops dudes with one shot. The dude is the best power puncher in the game right now and he has power that stands with the best the sport has ever seen. Stop hating.
     
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  5. DodgySyrup

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    Nahhh...not at all.

    Nice one, though, for disregarding the point.

    The point being he has fought nobodies.

    It's not hard to have a high % when the guys you are fighting are low quality.

    Let's be clear, i never said Wilder doesn't hit with some power, or that he hasn't had success; i merely disagree with the stated assertion that he has "freakish power" and is some kind of ATG.

    He's not.

    He's technically poor, has terrible fundamentals, is a snide, grubby loudmouth, and isn't half as good as he thinks he is.

    High quality opponents would have exposed him years ago...if he'd had the guts to face any, of course.

    Oh, and remember, this is the scum bag who bragged about wanting "a body" on his record.

    He wanted to kill someone in the ring.

    Granted, he has the intellect of a small rodent and probably thought he came across as edgy and dangerous; instead of the reality, which is he looked rather ridiculous and pathetic.

    For saying that stuff, for that reason alone, there would an karmic irony if he were seriously injured himself and left permanently damaged.
     
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  6. DodgySyrup

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    lol...don't get upset.

    Wipe your eyes, and your chin, understand not everyone is besotted the way you are, and find some acceptance for it.
     
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  7. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Any punch Wilder lands at close to full power knocks his opponent out. Whomever that opponent is.

    No other fighter in history can claim the same.
     
  8. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Wilder, Lewis, Foreman & Tua would be the hardest HW hitters of all time. I only include Shavers because boxers say so, not because he actually KO'd a champion in his life.

    Moorer hits hard as hell- just one hand. Julian Jackson is my #1 hands down.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Fury? Stiverne? Both went the distance and neither very impressive Historically. They also happen to be Wilder's best opponents.

    Also, how many full Wilder fights have you seen? Guys like Arreola, Johansson, Washington and Molina all took full power shots without being KO'd from them. All have been KO'd quicker by others.
    Wrong. By numbers, Valero can.
    Oh, your claims would be more dramatic and taken more seriously if they were true.

    But don't worry about it, we all know you prefer Whyte anyway, don't you Adam?
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He is arguably the p4p hardest puncher and most successful person to reach world title caliber with "very poor" to "bad" skills. That much I'll grant.

    So, yeah, congratulations, Deontay, you rate above like, Carlos Maussa. You're king of the haymaker chuckers. :clap:
     
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  12. Drago

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    About Fury.
    He was dropped by Cunningham and some dude named Neven Peikic (or similar). He has very good recover abilities but NOT a great chin.

    We can not answer the question because to this day Wilder hasnt fought an ironjaw like Chuvalo, McCall, or guys like Tua, Ibeabuchi and others.

    I would like to see if he would drop Chuvalo and McCall with his right hand, same with Tua and Ibeabuchi. Even a prime Ray Mercer had a very good chin, same as V. Klitschko.
    Maybe Vitali could take any right hand of Wilder without going down, we dont know.
    Ali had an amazing chin too in his 2nd term (1970-1980), he took the best shots from Foreman and Shavers, and only was floored once by Frazier with a blind punch in their first fight.

    I cant put Fury, Ortiz, Breazeale, Stiverne, Arreola, Duhaupas etc. on a level with the guys i just did mention, sorry.
     
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  13. DodgySyrup

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    Thank you.

    This is what i keep trying, unsuccessfully it seems, to get across.

    Wilder hasn't been in with much quality in his career.

    Of course he's knocked out bums.
     
  14. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Without contest the hardest behind the head puncher of all time.
     
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  15. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I never said he was an ATG. No need to respond any more to you because from this trash post I can see you clearly have a bias because you dont like the guy so you'll detract from anything he does as a positive. you also sound like a complete idiot saying he doesn't have the guts to face high quality opponents when he faced a high skill hw in Ortiz who'd never been ko`d and nobody wanted too fight and people were all saying DW was going to be exposed and then he fought Tyson Fury and nearly won by ko twice. Wont respond to another of your idiotic posts.
     
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