Upsets suffered by ATG heavyweights

Journeyman92 · Nov 5, 2024

Overhand94 said: ↑

Don't know how to classify them all, but the worst is undoubtedly Tyson vs Douglas. Tyson was the overwhelming favorite and that loss shattered his mystic and ranking forever.

Sanders/Rahman/Spinks would be after that.
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I don’t think losing to Douglas is that bad… I mean in terms of the times but looking at it for what it really was, was one pro losing to another pro - Douglas lived in a gym since he was a kid and just happened to get up for this fight while being on a good streak while Tyson just got figured out.

Overhand94 · Nov 5, 2024

Journeyman92 said: ↑

I don’t think losing to Douglas is that bad… I mean in terms of the times but looking at it for what it really was, was one pro losing to another pro - Douglas lived in a gym since he was a kid and just happened to get up for this fight while being on a good streak while Tyson just got figured out.
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I meant in a historic and symbolic sense. The unbeaten terror machine lost against an undistinguished challenger.
Of course Douglas was a good boxer who fought a great fight.

Dempsey1238 · Nov 5, 2024

Dynamicpuncher said: ↑

Tyson still knocked Douglas down and almost out for the 10 count in the 8th round yes it was a damaging loss to Tyson's legacy. But I think with hindsight you can say Douglas was on a red hot streak for 3 years he was also almost 6'4 with an 83 inch reach. I think the loss isn't quite as bad as people make out when you take into account Douglas's form prior to the Tyson fight, and the fact he had considerable height/reach advantages. Also the fact Tokyo Douglas is considered one of the best H2H fighters on that single night on what was probably Tyson's worst night in regards to form and the corner he had at that point in his career.

On the other hand you have Wladimir being absolutely crushed in 2 rounds being floored 4 times by a fighter that was considered past his prime who had only fought twice in almost 3 years. The fact that a majority of the fans don't think Wladimir could ever beat Sanders and the way he got dismantled in just 2 rounds makes it a worse loss for me in retrospect.

I mean can you think of a single ATG Heavyweight before the age of 30 that has been beaten as bad as Wladimir got beat in just 2 rounds ? I mean you could say Lewis vs McCall but that was a single shot out of nowhere. Wladimir got pummelled from pillar to post from the opening bell not 1 second of that fight was competitive.
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Fireman Jim Flynn knock Jack Dempsey out in 1 round.

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