US hype jobs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Andrew Wake, May 14, 2008.


  1. sk3000

    sk3000 Member Full Member

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    i expect a gold medalist to be a so-called hype job(andre ward)but he's just taking his time to develop a pro ame and not be so amaeturish
     
  2. BigReg

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    Who the hell cares? I saw another thread that said Mayweather beats Sugar Ray Robinson. I guess Mayweather is a hypejob too. The fact of the matter is, there a lot of crazy statements that are made on this board. You can't label someone a hypejob based on what one person says. The majority of people don't think Berto would stand a chance against Floyd. Furthermore, even if they did feel this way, you still can't call Berto a hypejob based on the sentiment. You can't do this for the simple reason that they've never fought. Hell, for all we know, Berto would give Floyd his toughest fight. Who the hell thought Castillo would give Floyd his toughest fight before they fought?
     
  3. sk3000

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    i agree if he gives the rematch that shows balls of the year . cuz it don't get more danerous than glen johnson
     
  4. Arriba

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    You'd be REAL surprised at the # of people who agreed with the OP on Berto being Floyd's toughest challenge. There are people who think he's a top 5 WW, THAT is hype isn't it?

    So a fighter who isn't going to live up to or amass the hype put on him is a hype job. Since I doubt Berto develops into anything more than an "okay" mid level WW once he moves up in class, he to me is a hype job.
     
  5. sk3000

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    well said and people also dont understand that the fight with castillo changed floyd in many ways as a fighter he's become a better body puncher since and has never been stressed like that again the same guy that took castillo to the limit was murdered by floyd so put no merit on commom opponents and won lose record to determin greatness all the time think about this could floyd have beat more than half the guys srl or hearn or robinson beat in their careers hell yes out the three srl walks out the loser against floyd
     
  6. fitzgeraldz

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    I don't think Ward is a hype job ... i'm sure that Ward was getting good sparring w/ pros during his amateur days and is a gym rat ... i'm sure now that he's getting good quality sparring and is getting brought along slowly. Every fight is building his confidence. I'm sure that by the end of this year ... Ward is going to be fighting either Allan Green or Edison Miranda. Who have been rumored to fight him earlier this year.

    The hype job is Berto --

    Lacy was a media hype product ...
     
  7. sk3000

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    how is berto a hype job he's undefeated and outside of cotto margo and money who would you pick to beat him hands down and don't give me that mosely **** cuz i always felt he was a hype job cause outside of oscar who did he beat
     
  8. ThePlugInBabies

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    fail.

    hamed was most certainly not a hypejob.
     
  9. Arriba

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    SRL wouldn't lose to Floyd....I would never bet against SRL in a money fight ever.
     
  10. sk3000

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    one mans hard fight is easy pickings for another but does that mean i can win cause you struggled with said opponent ask hatton how much common opponents means.berto could give floyd the fight of his life but get blasted out the water by cotto does that gurantee a victory for cotto against mayweather not at all
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

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    Mosley would have Berto.

    Andre has a slight chin/defense issue, and with Mosley being a bit of a banger these days I would expect Shane to capitalise.
     
  12. marting

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    I think the most ridiculous aspect of hype is the downside of so-called hyping. It happens when a decent fighter loses to an elite fighter and all the armchair experts come out of the woodwork saying "I told you so and so was all hype." Those polls on this site about Calzaghe/Lacy are a prime example. Hardly anyone on here said **** about Lacy and now all of sudden everyone is lying through their teeth saying they knew better.

    Just because a fighter doesn't meet the zenith of expectations and loses to an elite fighter it doesn't mean he was actually overhyped.

    I think hyping is part of the sport. Boxers hype themselves. Managers hype their fighters and in the US the media is always on the lookout for the next big thing. In the US the boxing public in general is a pretty callous bunch. We seem to enjoy a big fall from grace as much as great accomplishment. Look at the way we soak up news on the troubles of athletes and stars.
     
  13. sk3000

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    well put but berto can enhance hisself before they fight mosely is on the downward spiral
     
  14. sk3000

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    he was **** cause if he moved up in weight he would get killed he fought little ass guys man he was hype thats why he retired after mab
     
  15. ThePlugInBabies

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    possibly the dumbest arguement i've ever seen on this forum. it's being sig'd.