USA Boxing's Dan Campbell expresses frustration about American underachievement

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  1. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In an interview with Jim Gray, he was asked about his fighters not following the gameplan. To paraphrase:

    Campbell talked about how a lot of his fighters keep in contact with their original coaches/trainers back home, and if they aren't following his instructions in the corner, then he concludes that they are following someone else's advice.



    Is Campbell passing the buck, or is there truth to his statements? Thoughts?
     
    Sweet Pea Pacquiao, Aug 16, 2008
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  2. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Campbell is passing the buck. It's been well documented how little respect he's gotten in CS from the boxers.
     
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  3. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you have any examples Kolya? In terms of pre-Olympic issues?
     
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  4. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not specific. He's just not very well respected. Partially because it got sprung on all the guys AFTER they won the Trials that they would have to live for a year in Colorado Springs; and if they didn't they were off the team. Also, he's never really trained anyone nationally or internationally; except his daughter, who won JOs when women's boxing was still kinda shallow.
     
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  5. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't give Estrada good advice thats for sure. Instead of mentioning to Estrada to use the jab he tells him to let his hands go. No ****, care to give advice a bit more tactical.
     
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  6. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For the people who are interested but don't have the info, here are the current results in Beijing for USA Boxing (only Andrade and Wilder are still alive):

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    Round of 32: WIN ON PTS 12-9 over Jose Kelvin de la Nieve (Spain)
    Round of 16: LOSS ON PTS 7-8 to Serdamba Purevdorj (Mongolia)
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    Round of 32: LOSS ON PTS 8-9 to Lee Ok-sung (South Korea)
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    Did not make weight
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    Round of 32: WIN ON PTS 9-1 over Alessio di Savino (Italy)
    Round of 16: LOSS ON PTS 7-9 to Khedafi Djelkhir (France)
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    Round of 32: LOSS ON PTS 5-20 to Georgian Popescu (Romania)
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    Round of 32: LOSS ON PTS 1-14 to Boris Georgiev (Bulgaria)
    (only cleared day before fight due to punctured lung)
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    Round of 32: WIN ON PTS 11-9 over Kakhaber Jvania (Georgia)
    Round of 16: WIN ON PTS 14-3 over Andrey Balanov (Russia)
    Round of 8: FIGHTING Jung Joo Kim (South Korea) on Sunday 8/17
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    Round of 32: WIN ON PTS 10-2 over Ezequiel Maderna (Argentina)
    Round of 16: LOSS ON PTS 5-11 to James Degale (Great Britain)
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    Pre-Olympic Box-off: LOSS ON PTS 3-10 TO Washington Silva (Brazil)
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    Round of 16: WIN ON PTS 10-4 over Abdelaziz Touilbini (Algeria)
    Round of 8: FIGHTING Mohammed Arjaoui (Morocco) on Sunday 8/17
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    Pre-Olympic Box-off: LOSS ON PTS 3-10 TO Jose Payares (Venezuela)
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    Sweet Pea Pacquiao, Aug 16, 2008
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  7. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Campbell has come off as doing a horrible job to me. First, he's been working with these guys for almost a year now - he should know what motivates the different fighters. Second, he's been giving a lot of bad tactical advice. That's inexcusable. He should be summarily fired, even if Wilder and Andrade both go on to win gold.
     
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  8. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    No other way to say it, we are a joke.

    The Colorado Springs approach is bull****, let them train with their own guys, let them stick with what got them there.
     
    nervousxtian, Aug 16, 2008
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  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    It is sad what American Boxing has become.
     
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  10. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

    Sweet Pea Pacquiao Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, they are a team, but this is not a team sport. They are competing individually 1-on-1, which means it's unlike a sport like basketball, where your teammates' performance will directly affect yours, so practicing and rooming together is more necessary.
     
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  11. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    i think they went with the cuban approach. to create a complete boxing enviroment. best of the best under the same roof testing each other and progressing each other. eat sleep and drink boxing all night all day.



    but that doesnt work this way they are there to represnet the us but they are there for other agenda.
    why do you start boxing?...i sure as hell know it wasnt becuase your country demanded it
     
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  12. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Of the 2 left I've seen Andrede who looks very impressive but not Wilder, is he any good?
     
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  13. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder is raw but really big and strong. He should at least win a bronze I think.
     
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  14. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

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    Being that they had to stick together in Colorado Springs, how was the quality of their sparring partners leading up to the games? Did they fly guys in?
     
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  15. Kolya

    Kolya Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The sparring partners were the Olympic "alternates". They had several guys stay on as training partners for I think the year; with a few breaks spaced in between. I know Estrada was at least sparring with Shawn Porter; I don't know who else....I think Domonic Wade was there too. And then they would occasionally invite other people down; but they ****ed up on that too and didn't get some of the best they could. And I think they also sparred with the Olympians in the weight class near them.
     
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