USA Heavyweights improving

we also have a new Heavy on the scene by the way.... Joshua has just signed with Matchroom.

be afraid. be very afraid.

 

And you say us "Yanks" get overexcited by success?

I've seen Baby Huey Fury hyped as being the one to break Mike Tyson's record as youngest champ ... when his opponents to date have 103 losses.

Haye disgraced himself and his sport by flopping around against Wlad, afraid to even TRY to win the fight. He was an accomplished cruiser, but what has he done at heavyweight to make you hold him in such high esteem. Did you buy the 'oh my toe' excuse? I'm sure you did.

Tyson got dropped by a "full force" punch from a cruiser who can't bust a grape. He's been wobbled other times, even by his own self-uppercut.

You hold Fury and Haye up as your alpha heavyweights and say WE get overexcited over nothing?

 

Jennings - Still a prospect.

Banks - nope, stick to training.

Thompson - Looking like he might get another shot.

Scott - fought nobody.

Wilder - overhyped nobody.

Mitchell - Perhaps.

Arreola - overhyped.

Nothing there of any note apart from perhaps Thompson...

 

What

 

Haye would go through this while list with ease.

Fury would lose to Thompson... and might catch a bad one from Wilder if he gets too loose.

Other than that, they are better than the Brits.

 

We look at pitiful as we have for the last 5 years IMO. Realistically we only have an outside shot with Wilder or Jennings.

 

There has been a grass roots effort for the past 8-10 years too cultivate American heavyweights. Entire training facilities and recruitment strategies have been employed to get youth through adults involved in other sports through sponsorship and propaganda, trying to emphasize that heavyweight dominance is somehow an American birthright.

People act like Americans do not care about heavyweight boxing but the people that make up the boxing infrastructure in America definitely care.

 

utter nonsense, the amateur heavyweight scene is in complete shambles, the top amateur is named Cam F. Awesome, and he is incredibly skilled compared to his competition, who are mostly guys who joined a gym in the last year. Which, by the way is exactly what Bryant Jennings and Deontay Wilder were, dudes at an advanced age who were like: "why not give boxing a shot?" and wound up doing pretty well because there was absolutely no competition.

K.Will, come on!

 

There is no one in the entire world who "talks about" fighting more than Tyson Funny.

Haye, too, did more talking than fighting when he got his toe in the ring to flop -- I mean fight -- for the heavyweight title. A guy who voluntarily puts himself on the mat like that, only a True Brit would call him a fighter.

 

You sound like just another anti-American nationalist.


All "Yanks" aren't fat, cookie-eating bums. Get over that ****. Some of the American HW's are moving along OK, and may turn out to be good contenders in due time.


I'm American, but as anyone around here will tell you, my favorite HW is Haye, and I do agree that he would chop down this whole list. And I also agree that Chisora would have more wins than losses against this list.

 

i don't know.tubbs,tucker,bonecrusher smith,m.green,bert cooper,seem better to me.

 

:huh where in my post do i get excited??

i've seen Hughie say he'd like to beat Tyson's record, but in this climate, do you think that's out of the question? i don't think it is.
British posters are "asking" if he could do it, not claiming that he will. if you get a few saying that, they're in a very small minority. he does look promising so we'll wait and see if he amounts to anything.

Haye was pushed down, he didn't flop. Wlad always does that to his opponents. he grabs on to them then puts his entire weight on them. either that or uses his left hand outstretched to try and get a hold of them to bring them down

Haye tried to counter against a much bigger opponent with too much reach. he couldn't get anything off due to Wlad being his cautious self.
it wasn't a white wash you know. Wlad only won the rounds from a couple of punches more. both were to blame. still, he did better than any of your guys have over the past 10 years.

who's holding Haye in such high esteem? he's the 3rd best Heavy today who has a few good wins. nobodies claiming him to be Superman.
and you can talk with the guys you have. each and everyone of them have had undeserved hype. at least Haye has actually done something with his career and has talent. your guys are just ****, who either get beat when they so much as step up to fringe level, or don't fight anyone worth a **** for years on end.

how was it an excuse when his toe was broken? he didn't lie about it. you saw for yourself that it was broken.

Cunningham isn't a puncher, granted. but he's a good solid one. Tyson wasn't hurt and he got straight back up. so? what's your problem?

we say they're our best because they are, stupid. :huh who else would we pick? we're not saying they're the best in the world or anything. nor are we saying they're the best thing since sliced bread.

it's your insecurity that's the problem here, nobody else. :deal

 

I wish this "Yank-Limey" **** would just go away.



I happen to like Haye, Chisora, and Murray. Does that make me some sort of traitor? And to be completely honest, from an American perspective, all I see is anti-American trolls around here, so no wonder some Americans start talking dumb **** back. But again, that's just from my perspective.

 

Jennings - Good prospect, still learning

Banks - Can't say much from last showing

Thompson - Granite chinned mofo but no match for Vit

Scott - V skilled, powers not everything

Wilder - Packs a punch but really needs to bulk up

Mitchell - Like him but needs to use his psychical attributes more

Arreola - Warriors heart, needs decent strength and conditioning coach

I think KINGPIN beats them all apart from maybe Tony which I think would be a toss up.

Cunningham is better than Mitchell, Banks and Arreola.

Also what happend to Estrada? I know he lacked power but he gave Povetkin and Adamek hell.