USA Olympic Boxing Team

Olympic boxing is so soft it doesnt even seem like boxing all this points stuff is for the birds

 

Like I've said before; a bunch of rule changes are being implemented after the Olympics are over.

 

He was beaten. Djelkhir won the war, he was faster, stronger and he counterpunched efficiently. What do you need more ? A KO ? If the other robberies are like this one you are just poor excuse makers.

 

Raynell boxed the **** out of that Frenchman. They were missing clean scoring blows all over the place for Ray. I don't hold it against the Frenchman, he had a good fight against the Australian and did well. But he didn't beat Raynell.

 

You don't think you consider the blows of the guy you support as any other boxing fan ? Honestly I don't see why a french boxer would have an advantage with the judges, especially in China...
Judges didn't score half of the shots anyway (for both guys !) and without the sound of the punches it's very difficult to judge if a punch is really efficient. It seems to me that Djelkhir punched harder and with a pro scoring he would have won as well. The real war was in round 2 and Djelkhir clearly won this war no ?

 

Because Raynell was favored to make it to the medal round. It's like the coach of the American team said; the top American boxers and Russian boxers have been almost systematically removed from the tournament. There's no way Djelkhir would have won as a pro; the reason he appears to punch harder is because he's aggressive and comes forward. Raynell was walking him into punches and completely commanding the ring in terms of ring generalship.

 

I agree the whole system needs an overhaul. A guy like SRL or Pea would have instant credibility and really shake up the next team.

 

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No offense, but that whole idea is one of the most ridiculous ideas I've ever heard.

A more plausible and feasible plan is to bring on a coach from Russia or Cuba; hope that USA Boxing's funding doesn't get too badly cut, and really bolster the number of coaches' clinics offered and international experience that the boxers; and I mean all of the top level boxers and not just a few; get to go to.

 

Not really having a guy like Pea or SRL not being the head coach but over the program as a whole would have credibility with the fighters and garner respect. Whatever they're doing isn't working that's for damn sure.

 

Montana *****, I have forgotten more boxing than you or your Biological Redneck daddy know combined.

 

I'm not from Montana, you ****ing ingrate; and I'm pretty sure I know the amateur system a lot better than you, considering that's what I do.

 

Yeah, because bringing on two guys who boxed amateur 20+ years ago in a completely different format will go well. First off, neither of them are USA Boxing coaches or involved in coaching, SRL especially. Secondly, neither of them are experienced or familiar with the way the current system works. If you want to bring on a former Olympian, bring on Charles Mooney off the 1976 team; I know he's a USA Boxing coach and he also understands the way the current scoring system works. But they won't. Hopefully they do give Dan Campbell the boot; the whole organization is going to go through a shake up after this embarassment.

 

Completely commanding in terms of ring generalship ? What fight did you watch exactly ?!? Raynell vs Djelkhir was a rematch of the world cs, another good fight. Raynell had won this fight but Djelkir adjusted. If you compare the fights they are completely different and it's clear it wasn't Raynell's choice !
About the fight :
In the first round Djelkhir walked on Raynell but he waited for Raynell to punch first to counterpunch the counterpuncher : efficient, not many punches scored, close round.
In the second round it was the beginning of the war and it's clear it was Djelkhir's choice, not Raynell's choice. Raynell was beaten in terms of speed in this round and it costed him the fight : clear round for Djelkhir.
In the third round it's still the war, good shots, very close round.
In the 4th round Djeklhir turns and controls. Raynell wins the round but he cannot score much and it's too late : the fight is lost...
In this fight 2 good boxers, no dirty tactics etc. Where is the robbery ???
Both are very good boxers imo. Djelkhir is a bit more experienced and he has very good skills for an agressive boxer, he was olympian in 2004, he obtained silver in the 2004 euro cs, he is the only frenchman to have beaten his cuban opponent in a France-Cuba match recently etc.
He would have like to turn pro after the olympics but he will work as an educator since it's unable to find a promoter in France. About Raynell he is young and he has much time + it's easier to turn pro in the US !

 

The judging has been bad to horrible in every sport this Olympics. Seems like more so than usual. Gymnasts are getting an extra half point just for being Chinese. Diving judging has been inconsistent as hell. Boxers are universally getting underscored, especially if they have anything remotely resembling a pro fighting style.

I don't think it's a massive conspiracy though. I just think that the judges that have been chosen are flat INCOMPETENT. Rather than selecting the best and most impartial judges to judge the Olympics, they've just selected judges from different countries, each with their own biases, and have hoped that the combination of the biases would cover them all up. I realize you want this to be a world event, but they should at least make an effort to have the best judges at the most important competition.

 

I heard just the other day that Germany is going back to an East German style program.