USA vs the UK - Heavyweight Champions

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  1. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    in response to the UK-USA super middle thread that was started, this is including any fighters who were undisputed heavyweight champs and/or wba, ibf or wbc title holders as a heavyweight.

    USA - 48 fighters
    UK - 4 fighters (Bruno, Haye :lol:, Fitzsimmons-who was a US citizen at the time he won the title, and Lewis who fought for Canada in the Olympics)
     
    kmac, Jul 17, 2011
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  2. Scottish

    Scottish Khan(t) take a punch Full Member

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    Herbie Hide.
     
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  3. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    hide was a wbo belt holder and the wbo wasn't even recognized as a major title when he won it.
     
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  4. Scottish

    Scottish Khan(t) take a punch Full Member

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    With all due respect you're talking out of your arse, yes it was, people was calling it a major title back in the days of Michael Moorer and Riddick Bowe.

    Just admit you missed one out.
     
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  5. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    The WBO doesn't even count for **** now.

    Its a meaningless belt.

    Ring - The best
    IBF - Respectable
    WBC - Littered with meaningless splintered alphabet titles.
    WBO - Largely ignored.
    WBA - Total ****ing joke.
     
    Slacker, Jul 17, 2011
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  6. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    then why was lennox vs evander for the undisputed heavyweight title in '99 with the wba, ibf and wbc belts at stake? no one was recognizing hide as one of the title holders. same for morrison or mercer. the wbo gained momentum in the early 2000s for some reason.
     
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  7. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    if you see my original post, i didn't count the wbo belt. if i did, there would be more US fighters.
     
    kmac, Jul 17, 2011
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  8. Scottish

    Scottish Khan(t) take a punch Full Member

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    This isn't the discussion going into the merits of governing bodies all straps are junk these days, it still counts as being a world champion in the record books, one which he missed out in making his point so hes now backtracking.

    WBC was always the most prestigious back in the day anyway.
     
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  9. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    again, you didn't read the original post. hide as a heavyweight champ is a joke.
     
    kmac, Jul 17, 2011
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  10. silly_illy

    silly_illy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hide sat ringside awaiting the winner for the full unification, sadly to no unvail.
     
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  11. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    Fair enough.

    I guess officially Haye is a HW Champion too, albeit in the weakest and loosest sense of the term.


    But you are right, its a recognized belt, so it counts.
     
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  12. Scottish

    Scottish Khan(t) take a punch Full Member

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    Henry Akinwande to, we love the WBO strap.

    Haye, Bruno, Lewis, Akinwande, Hide, Fitzsimmons would be the official list for the record books.
     
    Scottish, Jul 17, 2011
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  13. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This country v country stuff is boring and juvenile.
     
    ImElvis666, Jul 17, 2011
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  14. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    holy **** :lol: akinwande. you sure know your heavyweight champs.
     
    kmac, Jul 17, 2011
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  15. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    America has a distinct advantage, you are all obese.
     
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