USADA and Floyd's Opponents

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Code Red, Sep 28, 2015.


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  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I keep reading claims by our forum conspiracy theorists that Floyd pays off USADA who...uhh, not sure, cover for him is it? What exactly are y'all accusing USADA of doing for FLoyd, you tell me...

    So if USADA is corrupt and their testing is bogus then doesn't that mean Floyd's opponents can get away with doping? After all you say VADA is better, they do more thorough testing. So if that's the case then Pac, Mosley, Guerrero, Alvarez, Maidana, Cotto, Ortiz, Berto could all have continued to dope with no worries, USADA is inept, corrupt, and paid off right?

    So what is it, they test the opponent but not Floyd, is that the argument you conspiracy theorist are making? They love Floyd like that, really?
     
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  2. Cap10Kirk

    Cap10Kirk Active Member Full Member

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    Yup. :D
     
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  3. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They test both fighters but the whole point is to make sure either the fight appears to have been fully tested or to make sure the non-Haymon fighter is clean while granting inadvertent use and TUE exceptions for Floyd.
    Your OP summed it up pretty close though.
     
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  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So they going to risk their entire operation for Floyd Mayweather, so Floyd owns WADA as well?
     
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  5. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And why exactly would they do that? To help Floyd win? USADA needs Mayweather...Really?
     
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  6. Cap10Kirk

    Cap10Kirk Active Member Full Member

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    Don't you get it? Floyd. Owns. Boxing. Period.
     
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  7. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    I was thinking the same thing. After Floyd leaves they still have to operate and make money. Why ruin an entire corporation for 1 man?:huh
     
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  8. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Oscar and GBP owned boxing, that's what y'all use to say isn't it? Remember how you use to claim Mayweather promotions is nothing, dont even have a license...now Floyd owns boxing, wow what a 180!
     
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  9. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    VADA catches 3 out of 18 while USADA charges up to 10 times more than VADA for catching almost no one in years. It's clear as daylight why anyone pays the extra fees and chooses USADA. Olympic testing is a different story and subject to different standards but in professional boxing or possibly in professional sports in general they are not a drug testing agency, they are part of the entertainment business where they help create the illusion that fights are clean.
     
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  10. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe because fighters take USADA seriously and consider VADA child's play
     
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  11. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah "maybe" :lol:
     
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  12. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So if you were a fighter or athlete would you dope if you knew USADA would be randomly testing you, do you disrespect their ability catch you?
     
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  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    USADA is in the business of making money by testing athletes. They wanted to get into boxing. Enter Floyd. He contracts them for testing, voila now they have an "in" in boxing. However this is "in" is highly suspicious because we cannot have the tested athletes controlling the agency that is supposed to watch over them. This should be obvious. When the promotional company is owned by the boxer, USADA becomes an employee of the boxer.
     
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  14. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I were a rich athlete who regularly doped I'd surely pay 100k$ and choose the organisation that catches 1 person out of 46 tests rather than paying 10k$ to the one that catches 1 out of 6.
     
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  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    USADA is a LOT easier to beat because they still employ a threshold limit. As long as you stay under this threshold they will not retest for clarification, ie. no CIR test unless your results are higher than 4:1 T:E ratio. VADA on the other hand use the CIR test as a first line test, so regardless of your ratio they will test you for any synthetic hormones in your system using the CIR test.
     
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