USADA just proved Hauser is a liar.

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Stay Dangerous Full Member

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    100% Pure ether
     
  2. salih

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    So ********** wasn't hiding in his basement with Ellerbe hooking him up to a "mineral" iv? Shocking news
     
  3. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd fans argument is basically they gave him permission to cheat he did nothing wrong, you couldn't make this stuff up :patsch
     
  4. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm just asking a question, I want to know the answer.

    Is it possible to slip something in the IV ( so the test before is irrelevant ) and use saline to drown out a substance while taking it...

    Does that make sense?
     
  5. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Urine test is rubbish mate 95% of peds wont show up
     
  6. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you know he wasn't using that IV to flush his system all the time?...
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: you have absolutely no shame.
     
  8. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hahahaha
     
  9. illwill007

    illwill007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Long time Mayweather fan here. Floyd is a great fighter and the best fighter of his era, but he's probably a cheater. And although I think that most top athletes dope, it is now his turn to face his guilt. In the court of public opinion, he's guilty. Simple as that.

    There is too much evidence against the man to simply ignore it. Low T/E ratios. Floyd dictating testing (Olympic testing is year round not when Floyd announces a fight).

    Nostalgia and revisionist history makes us forget that a lot of our favorite fighters had at some point a cloud of suspicion around them, i.e. Roy Jones, Evander Holyfield, etc. Those fighters are still considered greats though.

    If more is revealed then Mayweather's legacy will certainly take a hit. History will be particularly unkind to a PED using, selfish boxer with a safety first style. Despite his brilliance there will be an asterisk next to his name.
     
  10. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top post :good
     
  11. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    USADA continue to attempt to confuse the issue.




    From their website dated March 5, 2014


    Is it prohibited for athletes to use IV infusions for rehydration and recovery?

    We have seen an increase in inquires at USADA about the use of Intravenous (IV) Infusions for this purpose, and would like to assist athletes and medical personnel by offering education. In accordance with the WADA Prohibited List (Category M2 Chemical and Physical Manipulation), all IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6-hour period are prohibited, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL per 6-hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition unless the athlete has applied for and been granted a The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) under the applicable anti-doping rules. Further, if a prohibited substance that is administered intravenously or via injection, a TUE is necessary for this substance regardless of volume.

    Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval. WADA has justified the inclusion of IV infusions on the Prohibited List given the intent of some athletes to manipulate their plasma volume levels in order to mask the use of a prohibited substance and/or to distort the values in the Athlete Biological Passport. Further, it must be clearly stated that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild rehydration or help speed recovery is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific opinion to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice. Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with medical emergencies (emergency TUE), in-patient care, surgery, or clinical investigations for diagnostic purposes.

    Athletes should be aware that in specific cases, for example at an Olympic Games, there are specific no-needle policies requiring declarations of all injections/infusions, which aim to protect the health of athletes, encourage best medical practice, and discourage the use of techniques/manipulation that may be considered doping. In these instances, prior approval must be granted for ANY infusion and/or injection of prohibited or non-prohibited substance.

    In cases where IV infusions/injections are deemed medically necessary, good medical practice must ensure that: 1) a clear, well-justified diagnosis has been established; 2) no non-prohibited alternative treatment exists; 3) this treatment will not enhance performance other than to return the athlete to a normal state of health; 4) the treatment is administered by qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting; and 5) adequate medical records of the treatment are maintained. Athletes and support personnel administering IV infusions which cannot be medically justified are committing an anti-doping rule violation (ADRV) whether or not the individual substances are prohibited. In such cases, both the athlete and the personnel administering the IV infusion may be sanctioned.

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    Basically, their own guidelines clearly state that TUEs for IV drips would only be issued in an absolute emergency where no unprohibited alternative will suffice. It's a banned procedure that would only be allowed in exceptional circumstances under the USADA or WADA rules.

    Has anyone yet explained what sort of emergency necessitated Floyd's use of an IV drip ?

    What made his IV "medical necessary" with no other alternative ?
     
  12. Man_Machine

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    Indeed - Surely a medical emergency requiring an IV, so close to the event, would have led to the bout being called off? IVs are good but they're not that good - :think

    The USADA response seems to imply that the IV was administered due to Mayweather's inability to produce a urine sample. If this is the case then surely the inability to provide a sample does not constitute sufficient basis for the administration of an IV.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    It seems like the very worst reason to administer an IV.
    If an IV is deemed to be unnecessary method to deal with most cases of dehydration and no superior to drinking fluids, surely that would be even more true regarding an effort to produce urine.
    Everyone from the age of about 2 knows that drinking will make you p!ss. :lol:
     
  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO You idiots still think USADA is legit?? They are in that conspiracy up to their a$$es so are the NSAC. Read Thomas Hauser's expose its plain as a pikestaff. Mayweather, USADA, theNSAC & Vegas are in a corrupt conspiracy & have been for years You say its proven Hauser lied?? Show me where?? Mayweathers bogus record should be expunged & he be BANNED from any position in boxing. I'm waiting for the day the Fed's step in Tinkerbell wont be able to buy the Fed's off
    Clean out that rats nest in Vegas & lets make boxing believable again
    :clap: :clap: Thomas Hauser you've proved what most suspected all along :deal
     
  15. dodong

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    it's the t/e method of test that usada is using is what's allowing floyd to escape some detection.

    usada have actually caught floyd accidentally 3x only to give him TUE.
     


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