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USGov vs MMA's Fertittas: NV's Biggest Unfair Labor Practice Case

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From another forum, basically the lowdown of the Zuffa and their Mafia practices. I say bring these suckers down and give MMA back to the fans.

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This has been going on for a while but I think it is pertinent to how MMA's dominant player's history has been with their Casino employees and the National Labor Relations Board.

As things moves forward with the StrifeForce merger and the new position major league/top-tier fighters are in as a result... it would be good to get some perspective on MMA's Fertittas and their labor-relations history.

The case below is ongoing and a decision by the federal government won't be brought down until later this year. The Frank Fertitta III-run & Fertitta family-owned Station Casinos is now being prosecuted for 197 charges by the National Labor Relations Board which is a record for any Nevada owned company. The charges include: illegally using... threats, intimidation, interrogation, surveillance, bribery, discouragement, discrimination, discipline and physical assault against employees engaged in lawfully protected union activities.

This situation is also having a huge impact on MMA being sanctioned in the state of New York. It seems this is not only coming up to bite the Fertitta's in the butt... but it is affecting all fans, promotions and fighters in New York as well as the national scene.

See the Oct. 2010 & June 2011 Culinary Worker's Union press releases and Las Vegas Hispanic TV station video below...

USGov. vs Fertittas: NV's Biggest Unfair Labor Practice Case

The National Labor Relations Board Complaint vs Station Casinos Contains over 165 Charges, says Culinary Workers Union Local 226

October 26, 2010

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Today, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) begins to prosecute its Unfair Labor Practice case against Station Casinos, Inc. in front of Administrative Law Judge Geoffrey Carter. The NLRBs complaint against the dominant Las Vegas locals casino operator and the third-largest private employer in Las Vegas has grown to include more than 165 charges, the most ever against a Nevada gaming company. TheNLRB alleges that, from February 19 through August 31, the company has illegally used threats, intimidation, interrogation, surveillance, bribery, discouragement, discrimination, discipline and physical assault against employees engaged in lawfully protected union activities. The hearing is expected to last several weeks as Station workers testify in the governments case against the company.

We certainly hope Station Casinos will not retaliate against any of the workers who are brave enough to testify against the company during the NLRB hearing

People will see clearly now that Station is a very anti-union company that is trying to do everything it can to stop us from having a voice on the job and winning a better life for our families, said Norma Flores, a food runner at Fiesta Henderson and one of the Station Casinos Organizing Committee members who will testify as a government witness in the hearing.

We certainly hope Station Casinos will not retaliate against any of the workers who are brave enough to testify against the company during the NLRB hearing, said Geoconda Arguello-Kline, President of the Culinary Union Local 226. It is bad enough that Station is running an aggressive anti-union campaign, which has led to this massive NLRB complaint. It will be adding insult to injury if it punishes workers further for speaking out against allegedly illegal behavior by their supervisors and managers.

In February 2010, workers from Station Casinos ten major properties in the Las Vegas area formed the Station Casinos Organizing Committee to demand that the company allow Station workers to exercise their right to decide whether to unionize.

The Culinary Workers Union Local 226 is the largest local affiliate of UNITE HERE, which represents more than 250,000 workers throughout the U.S. and Canada who work in the hospitality, gaming, food service, manufacturing, textile, laundry, and airport industries.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...ernment-Begins-Prosecute-Largest-Unfair-Labor
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http://www.youtube.com/v/WSRcQXZS6l4
The U.S. Government's National Labor Relations Board has issued the largest ever complaint against a Nevada gaming company for violating workers' right to organize. The complaint alleges that, from February 19 through April 7, fifty-four Station managers and supervisors broke federal labor law 127 times.

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www.youtube.com/v/susG9aFF4hM

Dana White admits that the Culinary Workers Union (& the federal government's National Labor Union Relations Board's prosecution of the Fertitta's and their Station Casinos business over now 197 charges of illegal business activities)... is at the core of why MMA is not being sanctioned in the state of New York.

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Culinary and Bartenders Unions Announce Fired Station Casinos Workers Lead Large Civil Disobedience

150 Protestors Shut Down Two Lanes of Sahara Avenue Traffic During Rush Hour

June 03, 2011

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Fired Latino workers from Station Casinos led members of the Culinary and Bartenders unions in the citys largest civil disobedience in over a decade to protest the companys treatment and firing of Latino workers yesterday evening. The large protest came as Station Casinos completes the final stages of its bankruptcy restructuring. Over 1000 people rallied while 150 were arrested after they sat down in two Sahara Avenue traffic lanes in front of Palace Station near Interstate 15 and not far from the Las Vegas Strip.
I am a mother and I want a better future for my children

The protest included street theater to draw attention to the companys treatment of Latino workers, failure to provide wage increases and retirement contributions, and higher costs for worker health plans.

Station Casinos is the subject of the largest Unfair Labor Practice case ever filed against a Nevada gaming company by the U.S. National Labor Relations Board (NLRB). Many of the governments 197 charges against the company affect Latino workers. Eight of the ten worker organizers who have been fired by Station Casinos are Latino; two have since been reinstated. Over 90 percent of the workers who were called by the government to testify against the company are Latino.

The government has charged the company with allegedly using tactics including harassment, threats, retaliatory firings and disciplines, and the solicitation of customer complaints to impede worker efforts to form a union. The governments seven-month prosecution of the company ended in May and, in a surprise move, Station Casinos called no witnesses in its defense. During the course of the trial, the governments charges against the company grew from 168 to 197 alleged violations of federal labor laws. A decision in the case is expected later this year.

Teresa Debellonia was one of the workers fired by Station Casinos after she began exercising her right to form a union. After the NLRB charged the company with allegedly retaliating against her because of her union activity and appearance as a government witness in the NLRBs case against Station Casinos, the company reinstated her with back pay and no loss of seniority. I am a mother and I want a better future for my children, said Debellonia, a Guest Room Attendant at Green Valley Ranch Resort Casino. Im happy to be back at work, but I want Station Casinos to treat its workers equally and fairly.

Since the 2007 management-led buyout allowed a small group of company insiders to take $660 million out of the company, workers at Station Casinos have not had a raise, have had the cost of their health insurance increased, have had no employer contribution to their 401k retirement accounts, and have seen the loss of thousands of jobs.

The Culinary Workers Union, Local 226, and Bartenders Union, Local 165, are both affiliates of UNITE HERE. The Culinary is the largest local labor union in the U.S. gaming industry. It represents approximately 60,000 casino and resort workers primarily on the Las Vegas Strip and in downtown Las Vegas. Visit http://www.culinaryunion226.org and http://www.workerstation.org for more information.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...tenders-Unions-Announce-Fired-Station-Casinos

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That's not as bad as Overeem v Werdum, that **** was unbearable

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Im glad M1 global treat their fighters better with regards to pay...

Affliction Entertainment filed a countersuit against M-1 Global, the management and promotional group that reps Fedor Emelianenko, in Los Angeles federal court on Thursday, asking for declaratory relief on the validity of a "Consultation Agreement" signed into by the two parties in April 2008 -- allegedly under false pretenses. Affliction is also asking the court to rule that M-1 Global return $2.4 million in consulting fees it was paid in conjunction with two Affliction MMA events the two groups co-promoted in July 2008 and January 2009.

In the filings obtained by Sherdog.com, Affliction claims it, under M-1 Global's directive, entered into two separate agreements with Emelianenko and the Holland-based organization to procure the services of the world's No. 1 heavyweight as a headliner for three events.

According to Affliction, the California-based promotion inked a "Fight Agreement" that tendered $300,000 to Emelianenko per bout he participated in, while Affliction was directed to pay the remaining $1.2 million of Emelianenko's $1.5 million asking purse per bout directly to M-1 Global under the auspice of a "Consultation Agreement."

"The reason for the two agreements, Affliction was told, was for personal tax implications," reads the countersuit.

Affliction claims no consultation was ever agreed upon or given by the M-1 Global group for the two events.

"Because the consulting agreement was a sham contract designed to avoid tax obligations, M-1 had no obligations to perform pursuant to the consulting agreement and therefore rendered no performance under the consulting agreement," alleges Affliction's filings.
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Im glad M1 global treat their fighters better with regards to pay...
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What you conveniently left out is that M1-Global is contractually obligated to pay Fedor $3.5 million dollars per fight. Included in Fedor pocket is that little bit ($300,000) from Affliction.

Looking at UFC's fighter (locker room) bonus and comparing it to Fedor's. Hell Carwins's $25k to Fedor would make just about any fighter cry in dismay.

"Emelianenko has an 8.5% interest in the company". Also revealed are the details to his March of 2008 contract with M-1, which "obligated him to fight for M-1 for a two-year period in exchange for $2 million per bout, as well as a $1.5 million signing bonus." Later, although still under contract with M-1, he and M-1 signed an agreement with Affliction Promotions. This new "fight agreement required that Emelianenko fight in three bouts with a $1.5 million purse per bout. Since Affliction would not cover the full ($2 million) payment, M-1 paid the $500,000 difference along with a portion of his $1.5 million bonus after every fight.
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From another forum, basically the lowdown of the M1 and their Mafia practices. I say bring these suckers down and give MMA back to the fans.

Recently, Vadim Finkelstein has made several loud statements in regards to your best fighter Alistair Overeem, accusing him of constantly using illegal substances (steroids). Finally, it got so out of control, that the largest sports website in Russia (sports.ru), had a big title on the main page: Vadim Finkelstein: Overeem in a steroid cattle, a few hours later, the interview was taken down, and the citation and title was changed (Vadim called the reported in the middle of the night demanding to do that), but that phrase was already copied to all the major MMA websites, and forums around the world (Sherdog, underground and etc).

We feel that Vadim actions are inappropriate, unprofessional and harmful to Alistair. Vadim keeps talking about fight with Josh Barnett, who was caught using steroids 3 times in his career, but claims that Overeem is steroid cattle and refuses Fedor to face him, when in fact, Alistair was never caught cheating.

Therefore, we would like to give you the opportunity to talk to Russian fans, on the pages of largest MMA website in Russian, and defend your fighters reputation. We are open for all information, not the censored crap that M-1s presents to the public.

We would be delighted to conduct an interview with you and possibly with Alistair Overeem, and to work with your Golden Glory team in the future, as a media hub for Russian and ex-Soviet Union fans of MMA and K-1.s
The only Russian Coward

First of all we must tell you that in my last email I send to you, Vadim and me talked on the phone and we agreed it was better for the sport to not have our differences been published on public forums. I knew he could not keep that promise for long as he is a professional liar. I Vadim said that Alistair Overeem was a steroid Bully could be seen as head article on Russians biggest sport site (later it was removed but by that time sherdog and other already took over the quote)!

First of all we would like to praise the Russian's for always bringing great fighters to the international sports scene around the world.
Russia has produced some of the greatest champions in Fight Game History, Wrestling, Boxing, MMA, Judo, Sambo etc. Sportsmen like Alexander Carallyn, Fedor, Kharitonov,Vovchanchin, Taktarov, etc Men of few words and lots of action.
One think I don't get, is who is this loud mouth Vadim? Is he even Russian? Because he is not acting like one and he keeps embarrassing the Russian people around the world. Was he ever a sportsman? Did he ever compete? Why does he talk such bad things about one of our Golden Glory fighters Alistair Overeem? I've never heard Fedor say one negative thing about any fighter, and this flamboyant loud mouth keeps trash talking.
we at Golden Glory are taking this personally, and I am ready to prove to this guy and the rest of the world that Vadim is the only Russian coward, We are the same age and weight. I am challenging him to a fight just to prove my point. If he is a true Russian and a man, than he should fight me or for the rest of his days, whenever he looks in the mirror, he will remember my words. He is a coward.

1. Every show Vadim negotiated the terms for Fedor, he bankrupted. Pride, Bodog, Affliction ... you name it, any event Fedor ever participate they bankrupted the promoters with crazy demands. His (Vadim) nickname in America is the nail. He is the nail in the coffin.

2. Vadim embarrassed Fedor in front of the Americans, by backing down to fight Randy Couture.

3. Now he is embarrassing Fedor again in front of the Dutch people. by backing down to fight Alistair Overeem.

Fighting is a sport like any other, losing is OK, but hiding is a sign of weakness and fear.
Vadim keeps saying he wont fight Alistair because he takes steroids, yet he claims he wanted to fight Barnett, who was caught on three occasions using illegal substances, yet Alistair who has never been found guilty of any use of steroids (Alistair has also fought in the states several times) It is mentioned by Vadim that Alistair is a steroid bully and this is why Fedor would not fight him? (You have to be kidding me, Vadim is scared! that is all) he continues to say...Alistair should first prove himself. He obviously made this ridiculous statement and many others to evade the fight, a fight which the fans would love to see! I do not say that Fedor can not beat Alistair, but it would be amazing to see these two excellent athletes put their belt on the line! Vadim excepted a fight with Hong Men Choi in a co- production on New Years Eve, I guess the weight and height and raking of this Hong Men Choi did not matter to Vadim as he was allowed to co-promote the event with M-1 in Japan, steroids or not hahahahahahaaa
Vadim knows if Alistair beats Fedor, Strikeforce will be the first one to say bye bye co-promotion M-1 craphola.
Strikeforce would like to keep their organization clean and healthy business wise and have a champion like Alistair Overeems Golden Glory fighter who they can work with!
After this M-1 is back in Russia searching for new money investors who by then are wise enough to see Vadim as a scam artist.
More then once we have asked for Fedor to fight Alistair in Japan, the States, Europe or anywhere for that matter and Alistair mentioned this in his interviews, he clearly states publicly that he would fight Fedor any where anytime!

The funny thing is that then a whole campaign started why Alistair would not go to the USA to fight with upper chief coward Vadim upfront talking about steroids and crap, everybody knew Alistair was in the hospital for his injured hand which resulted in a serous infection. It was only at the end of august that Alistair could pick up training again. Strikeforce did not have any offers by the time Alistair got out of the hospital, so Alistair took the opportunity to fight in K-1 against Peter Aerts in Korea at the last 16 and won. He became third at the K-1 WGP 2009 and KOd Fujita on new years eve. Recently he defeated Potzurak from Bosnia with a KO victory by knee in round 1. Golden Glory has announced that Alistair will defend his title in the states this year and we will focus on fighting in America and now there will be no use for speculation anymore as Alistair will be submitted to the same drug tests Fedor and any other fighter has to!

We already announced we would defend the strikefroce belt in the states, but by now Fedor's management (not Fedor himself, I am sure he would fight anybody anytime and he is a great fighter) refuses Alistair as a possible future opponent in strikeforce. Scott Cocker is getting grey hairs from this crap management from Fedor, as also the contractual terms which were agreed by Vadim and strikeforce were not honored by Vadim already after the first fight, Vadim wanted to change the agreement after the first fight as his findings were that M-1 did not get enough exposure (this recently could be read in the media I never spoke with Scott about this as it is not my business).
This is exactly what it is all about Vadim never fought himself before and like I said before I question if he is even Russian? Vadim promised Fedor to become an equal partner in the M-1 circus and tried to find rich Russian investors to build their own organization) the poor investor did not know what he got himself into. Vadim forgot to tell Fedor and the investor that to be able to run an organization you need good fighters and to corporate with some of the strong fight camps and promoters in the world. That door was closed as Vadim still owes G.G huge amounts of money about a previous deal G.G made with Vadim regarding the management of Fedor and was not honored by Vadim.
The reason to smudge Alistair Overeem and evade him to fight and some other fighters they refuse like Couture, but especially Alistair is a simple one: fear and money! Vadim knows that there is a chance of Fedor loosing to Alistair, if that happens he can not play the M-1 Global promotion card anymore and that would mean the end of M-1 or better said the end of Vadim trying to be the big shot promoter that he most certainly is not! Vadim tries to build his M-1 brand/ promotion by honing in on the hard work and accomplishments of others , no wonder the UFC refused to co-promote with M -1.
Barnett, who was got caught three times with illegal substances, yet Alistair has never been found guilty of using illegal substances in his career (Alistair also fought in the states several times) Yet Vadim states he is a steroid user and this is why Fedor will not fight him, he first should prove himself more and more of these ridiculous announcement to evade a fight which the audience would love to see. I do not say that Fedor can not beat Alistair. Alistair has been busy in the strong field of K-1 stand up strikers and did really well.
We were already with strikeforce and Alistair holds official this heavyweight title, unfortunately last year Alistair got into a brawl where he hurt his hand and was out of the fight game for 6 months and could not defend his title in the states because of this.
More then once we ask for Fedor to fight Alistair and Alistair mentioned this in his interviews, he would fight Fedor any where anytime.
.Golden Glory stated that they will defend the Strikeforce Heavyweight belt on May 15th in the States against who ever they put in front of Alistair (comments from some of the people at Fedors camp, Fedor is on a long holiday and can not fight then)
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part 2

This were some developments which were not mentioned before

M-1 Red Devil “Mafia”, Fedor trapped, Appy threatening to kill M-1 promoter in Seattle?

Recently I have read some interesting interviews regarding Appy Echteld and Vadim Finkelchtein. It almost reads as a very bad gangster story, or mafia movie, but there are some interesting facts here, that should most definitely not be ignored!

There is a chapter, where Appy echteld is caught on tape, hiring killers to blow away certain people and the whole European Fighting Network of the Dutch promoter Simon Rutz.

Bas Boon of Golden Glory on Overeem, Fedor, K-1, M-1 and More! HeadKickLegend.com the new domain for K-1 LEGEND

App E manager of Fedor and at that time Spong (he left appy's manegement) hires killer in Holland - Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

Crimesite Toon onderwerp - Vechtsport en de onderwereld dutch crime site nl

2h2h organizer / manager wordt waarschijnlijk dit weekend gearresteerd [Archive] - MixFight.nl Appy probably will be arrested this

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The interesting part is that Mixfight.nl - Wie is de Baas? posted the story first, topic was closed because of Appy E called about this (does this sound famliar with threads to shut valetudo.ru?) Later reopened as the moderator from mixfight who got confirmation that the story was true by listening to the the tapes.
These recordings of Appy Echteld hiring killers etc were confirmed by famous Dutch people in the fight industry, Hans Nijman, Dick Vrij, Chris Dolman, Simon Rutz

Ultimate Fighting: Russia vs. the World - Pravda.Ru front page on a russian newspaper about M-1 MixFight being involved in heavy crimes

App E manager from Fedor and Spong hires killer in Holland - Page ...
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Yes Appy does manage Fedor and look after his interests along with Vladim and ... Petersburg Mix Fight Federation has had the right to organize mix-fight ...
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My good friend in Seattle told me the same story, with a few differences, but again with Appy threatening to kill people - this time a Seattle promoter. There were huge problems with Appy Echteld from M-1. No contracts were made for the M-1 Seattle event about production cost, fighters, stage builders…….? The fighters were fighting for $1000, but for production M-1 was spending tens of thousands of dollars. Finally there was a problem about production cost with the promoter of the M-1 Seattle event. It went like this: Appy was screaming and yelling you fu%$%$@# he pulled his mobile phone camera and started making pictures. Then he said he was going to send the pictures directly to a Russian hitman who would come to Seattle and kill the promoter!

To reiterate - Appy Echteld takes pictures with his camera in front of an American citizen who should promote M-1 in America and screams that he is now sending this pictures to a Russian hitman and then they would kill him!

Vadim's response to the post of Bas Boon is in English on a Dutch forum link:

Bas Boon over M-1 en Golden Glory + Reactie van M-1's Vadim Finckelstein - MixFight.nl

What's interesting about this read is that Vadim tries to make Bas Boon look like a thief but actually what Vadim said makes no sense at all and he seems to be avoiding the topic at hand.

In the USA every foreign fighter will get a 30% tax deduction from his fight purse, this is the law of the USA it is now and it was the same back then when Semenov fought. Bas Boon must be speaking the truth as the argument from Vadim is weak and makes no sense! And why does he not answer any of Bas Boon's questions? Or address the topic at hand?

Therefore it is M-1 with crazy fight purses like Gerard Mousasi, who is the Champion from Dream who fights for $2000.- in Strikeforce????? Or Fedor fights for $300.000 who is undefeated against Tim Sylvia who gets $800.000???? Then Orlowosky gets paid 1.5 Million but Fedor fights for $300.000?

Well I guess M-1 does not like to pay tax's for their fighters on US soil (and Vadim was accusing me of the 30% tax law in the united states, saying this law did not exist). Come on make USA look ridiculous by having Gerard fight for $2.000.-. Make it $20.000 or $35.000 at least but $2000.-?

Then there is the fact of Appy claiming he heard from somebody inside the UFC, that they would not pay enough for Gerard? Somebody inside the UFC??? Appy and Vadim have Joe Silva's number, Danna White and the number and mails addresses from The Fertittas, so what kind of bull**** story is that, some person on the inside and Appy can’t remember his name???
Gerard had been checking the story and Joe Silva confirmed that he never spoke to Appy or made any offer! Another Appy Echteld lie. Just a few days later, Gerard Musashi fights in Strikeforce for $2000.-?

In Bas Boon's post It gets really interesting as he provided a legit copy of an offer from K-1 in 2006 for Fedor when pride was dying. The total offer was 2.4 million plus sponsorship and freedom to fight in the USA where Fedor could made another two million. Five million for Fedor in 2006, instead Fedor fights Zulu two months later for 450.000 then Coleman that year for another $450.000. Appy Echteld and Vadim who had big problems with Golden Glory held a disaster event in the Ahoy in Rotterdam. They told Pride if you pay for our losses we will keep Fedor with you guys and I bet you fedor never saw the legit offer from K-1?

This means Fedor missed $4.100.000 dollars because lying Appy Echteld and Vadim used Fedor, to blackmail Pride - paying for their expenses (Appy and Vadim expenses in the dissaster Holland Ahoy show) OR IN OTHER WORDS HUGE LOSSES disaster show (they told Pride boss Sakakibara: Fedor will keep fighting at your Pride show, but then pay our losses from the Ahoy Rotterdam show)! Now as for their so called “mafia” connections or speaking constantly about Russian Maffia, Appy and Vadim should be concerned about using the Russian mafia to threaten people. There will be a K-1 event in St Petersburg next year and it will be done without Vadim and Appy, the venue is already booked and it will be interesting to see how big Appy and Vadim's so called “maffia” connection really is. I think Appy Echteld is on thin ice and Vadim Finkelchtein is only using M-1 as a cookie for Fedor. Fedor should realize there is no other good fighter with that organization other then him and Gerard Mousasi and that when he looses, M-1 is dead. Vadim and Appy are lying through their teeth if they tell Fedor and their invesotor that M-1 is a huge success and that they are going to be the biggest organization on the planet, ask anybody in Europe on the streek do you know M-1 and they think it is a brand for washing clothes!. The money man who put money into M-1 is bleeding hard and will see huge competition with far more countries broadcasting K-1 and Dream then M-1 which this business man put millions of dollars on the lying Vadim and Appy!

Further more its rumoured that Lorenzo from the UFC has recently been seen in Russia (some fan recognized him at the airport in Russia), this would be very interesting if this was true!!
It will be very interesting to see if Fedor knows he lost huge opportunities worldwide not to mention Fedor lost $4.100.000 dollars in 2006. Gerard Mousasi is finding himself in a similar position now, Mousasi knows App and Vadim lied to him and its time to change camp and management.

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What you conveniently left out is that M1-Global is contractually obligated to pay Fedor $3.5 million dollars per fight. Included in Fedor pocket is that little bit ($300,000) from Affliction.

Looking at UFC's fighter (locker room) bonus and comparing it to Fedor's. Hell Carwins's $25k to Fedor would make just about any fighter cry in dismay.
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Sure it would....he's obviously not getting ripped off by m1....

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Stoo you zombie get off my thread.

WHAT I PRESENTED WERE FACTS!!!!!!!

You tried to counter that by saying that M1 were scums and Fedor was ripped off.

AGAIN I COUNTERED YOU WITH FACTS THAT PROVE THAT FEDOR HAS A LARGE M1 OWNERSHIP AS WELL AS IN A VERY GOOD POSITION FINANCIALLY.

You obviously couldnt counter that argument so you came out with some stories and some other hearsay and garbage.

For example.

"There is a chapter, where Appy echteld is caught on tape, hiring killers to blow away certain people and the whole European Fighting Network of the Dutch promoter Simon Rutz." -----
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- Now as for their so called “mafia” connections or speaking constantly about Russian Maffia, Appy and Vadim should be concerned about using the Russian mafia to threaten people. ------
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-Gerard Mousasi is finding himself in a similar position now, Mousasi knows App and Vadim lied to him and its time to change camp and management. -----
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-M-1 does not like to pay tax's for their fighters on US soil (and Vadim was accusing me of the 30% tax law in the united states, saying this law did not exist ------
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- Vadim tries to build his M-1 brand/ promotion by honing in on the hard work and accomplishments of others , no wonder the UFC refused to co-promote with M -1. -----
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-After this M-1 is back in Russia searching for new money investors who by then are wise enough to see Vadim as a scam artist. -------
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Now that Stoo has been owned many times in MY thread, can we go back to this issue of Zuffa getting smacked by the unions left right and center, how BADLY theyve been treating workers, and how theyve use their mafia like muscles to intimidate everyone?

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Sure it would....he's obviously not getting ripped off by m1....
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Considering that Gegard wants the same deal, the fact that Fedor has remained with them even after the contract says a **** load. Remember that Fedor walked out on his previous management after finding out that he was unfairly treated and paid.

Find me any other fighter that is getting paid 3.5 million dollars per fight and owns a large percentage of a global promotion.

Also Fedor has lost two in a row and M1 has remained by his side, if this happened in the UFC then they would most likely kick that said fighter out onto the streets.

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Aww Moron, I thought we could clean up MMA together. I have not said M1 are scum, I just quoted various promoters namely Bas Boon who actually has experiance of dealing with these M1 monsters. I must have missed the facts, just a lawsuit allegations. To paraphrase your quote about rival promotions, Unions are always taking employers to task

Do you actually have Fedors bank balance, or are you quoting the M1 press realise. Because I wouldnt trust them more than Zuffa. Both have allegations of using Mafia muscle dont they? So lets attack them BOTH!!!

As you said the Furtitas didnt start the UFC. Maybe they should follow M1 Globals lead and allowed Strikeforce's entire stable of fighters to ride on the coat tails of Fedor. I mean it's obvious strikeforce needs M1 more than M1 needs strikeforce. If they were not so chartable I dont know what SF would do with Barnett, Overeem, Big Foot and Werdum on their roster. Who the **** would they fight?

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monaroCountry said: ↑

Considering that Gegard wants the same deal, the fact that Fedor has remained with them even after the contract says a **** load. Remember that Fedor walked out on his previous management after finding out that he was unfairly treated and paid.

Find me any other fighter that is getting paid 3.5 million dollars per fight and owns a large percentage of a global promotion.

Also Fedor has lost two in a row and M1 has remained by his side, if this happened in the UFC then they would most likely kick that said fighter out onto the streets.
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Well I googled that Gregard wanted the same deal and all I could find was this

“After careful consideration, I have decided that it is in my best interest to part ways with M-1 Global. During the time I spent under their wing, M-1 Global, as a promoter and management company, allowed me to achieve many great things. I appreciate all they have done for me…My management is [now] being taken care of by someone close to me."
Mousasi added that he’d like to come back to the U.S. to train with Josh Thomson at American Kickboxing Academy; the two fighters recently became acquainted in Miami during the last Strikeforce show. So what spurred Mousasi’s split with M-1? Apparently, they wouldn’t keep him on the payroll for life. Mousasi’s former manager at M-1, Apy Echteld, told MMA Junkie that the Last Gypsy broke ties when M-1 refused to sign him into a long-term management deal that would give the Dutch-Armenian fighter "lifetime security" — a contract setup reportedly enjoyed by Fedor Emelianenko.
Mousasi is still under contract with Strikeforce for as many as seven fights, and plans to enter DREAM’s light-heavyweight grand prix later this year. His next match is rumored to be against Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal in April.

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Why on Earth would Gregard turn down a deal with M1 seeing as it is so lucrative? He must be an idiot

It's very kind of M1 to stay by Fedor's side considering they dont need him and have international stars on their roster like....um.....hmmmm :huh

Stoo, Jun 24, 2011

Stoo, Jun 24, 2011

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monaroCountry Guest

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Aww Moron, I thought we could clean up MMA together. I have not said M1 are scum, I just quoted various promoters namely Bas Boon who actually has experiance of dealing with these M1 monsters. I must have missed the facts, just a lawsuit allegations. To paraphrase your quote about rival promotions, Unions are always taking employers to task

Do you actually have Fedors bank balance, or are you quoting the M1 press realise. Because I wouldnt trust them more than Zuffa. Both have allegations of using Mafia muscle dont they? So lets attack them BOTH!!!

As you said the Furtitas didnt start the UFC. Maybe they should follow M1 Globals lead and allowed Strikeforce's entire stable of fighters to ride on the coat tails of Fedor. I mean it's obvious strikeforce needs M1 more than M1 needs strikeforce. If they were not so chartable I dont know what SF would do with Barnett, Overeem, Big Foot and Werdum on their roster. Who the **** would they fight?
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**** OFF STOO, YOUR TALKING GIBBERISH AND DEVIATED FROM THE ORIGINAL THREAD. I FEEL COMPELLED TO CORRECT ALL YOUR MORONIC MISTAKES AND MISINFORMATION!!!!

Bas Boon who actually has experiance of dealing with these M1 monsters
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Bas Boon was FIRED by M1 Global, Bas tried to skim money from the top of what Pride was supposed to Pay M1. M1 gave Boon a chance on the first one but fired his ass when he tried doing it again.

Unions are always taking employers to task
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Theres disputes and theres this, this is basically UFC trying to intimidate and illegally force its workers into something. Not every company gets this type of government investigation and not every issues gets taken up by the union.

Zuffa actually has a proven history of Mafia connections and has also have current Mafia strong arm tactics in most of their dealings.

M1's so called Mafia allegations have come from two opposing promotions. No ****EN PROOF YOU MORON!!!!

Well I googled that Gregard wanted the same deal and all I could find was this
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Backs up my point nicely moron.

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For your information, Gegard never broke ties with Appy, Appy remained and is still Gegard's manager.

Why on Earth would Gregard turn down a deal with M1 seeing as it is so lucrative? He must be an idiot

It's very kind of M1 to stay by Fedor's side considering they dont need him and have international stars on their roster like....um.....hmmmm
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Fedor's CONTRACT IS VERY LUCRATIVE. Gegard wanted the same thing and was turned down by M1-Global who then allowed Gegard to field other offers that would be more lucrative. Gegard decided to take this offer.

Oh you can stop saying ummm now, I know that you suck Zuffa's balls for life. You probably call MMA UF ****en C also and most likely down even watch other promotions.

monaroCountry, Jun 25, 2011

monaroCountry, Jun 25, 2011

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Dave_j1985 Active Member Full Member

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I was gonna read the original post...but then I just carried on living my life...

Dave_j1985, Jun 25, 2011

Dave_j1985, Jun 25, 2011

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Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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monaroCountry said: ↑

**** OFF STOO, YOUR TALKING GIBBERISH AND DEVIATED FROM THE ORIGINAL THREAD. I FEEL COMPELLED TO CORRECT ALL YOUR MORONIC MISTAKES AND MISINFORMATION!!!!
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Moronic mistakes? You misspelled LABOUR in the thread title you ****ing clown
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Stoo, Jun 25, 2011

Stoo, Jun 25, 2011

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rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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monaroCountry said: ↑

You probably call MMA UF ****en C also and most likely down even watch other promotions.
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That's an interesting typo. I'm not making fun at all, I'm being completely serious. I sometimes try to do accents, and if I were attempting an Australian accent, I would probably say something that sounds closer the word down when saying the word don't.

Again, I'm not making fun. Every geographic area has an accent. I enjoy hearing the differences.

rekcutnevets, Jun 25, 2011

rekcutnevets, Jun 25, 2011

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