Using boxing as a fighting art by itself

Assuming this is against someone with no MA or boxing, probably more effective then most martial arts out there, especially if your spar often.

 

Mixed bag. It's very effective when you're in control of the situation (IE, there's no sucker punches). You also have to work fast and the combination you throw should be the only you have to throw.
It's a bit harder when it's a big dude who grabs you by your neck.

 

Of all the martial arts that are actually useful and effective, boxing is the least useful. Not to say that it's useless, but relative to the other useful martial arts (well, sort of because boxing isn't a martial art, at least traditionally speaking...you wouldn't normally associate boxing with martial arts). Reason being is that it prepares you for the least amount of potential situations. But the ones it does, holy **** it is effective.

Muay Thai prepares you for the whole variety of situations you'll likely encounter if the encounter remains standing. It allows you to utilize all the available tools. You can punch and elbows, forearms, knees, shins, clinch (far more varied the boxing, and more effective in a strict sense).

Now, wrestling by itself isn't really overly effective. It allows you control and against untrained people it's usually enough to just be able to put someone in an extremely uncomfortable position. What's more useful is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. It has submission holds that can be executed standing, on the ground and everywhere in between. It's versatility and effectiveness makes it the most effective individual martial art, by far. By far.

Now, what's the best thing to do? Learn em all. That's the entire point of Mixed Martial Arts. It's finding out what works best in what situation and get rid of the unnecesssary stuff that isn't effective or doesn't work nearly as well as something else.

Now, if you really want to defend yourself in all possible street scenarios, you learn Krav Maga. If you learn real Krav Maga from a real, legit Krav Maga instructor...you'll **** some people up. That is some serious, serious stuff.

That's the extra-simplified version, but it's about right.

 

This. Any form of striking is going to be more effective in a regular street fight than anything else. The last thing you want to do is end up on the ground with a bunch of your opponent's friends ready to put their boots to your head.

 

this should answer your question.

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I have done more than 4 MA.

I must say in the streets against "normal" people, boxing is very good. There are two points to mention, 1. the good thing in boxingtraining is that you spar a lot, so you don't do kata's and that sort of things, but really ''preparing'' yourself for a fight. 2. the second point, that is a negative point about boxing is, that many people know how to box(maybe not very skilled, but they know how to do it). So in reallity boxing is good, but you may face the problem that your opponent also knows how to box.

I think you really have to mix it up. For example start with boxing for your punches, do wrestling of jiu jitsu and finaly do Jeet Kun Do, so you learn to master distance in fighting. Because with boxing you use another sort of range of distance than with wrestling, so you have to combine the two.

If I would recommend someone a sport for the streets it would be boxing, but nog only boxing, because you never know how good your opponent is at boxing.

 

That first clip of a boxer versus three men. the boxer is a real class act. he is stepping back all the time defended himself.

If he had done a double leg takedown and started some ground and pound he would have been killed by his opponent's friends.

It is vital in a street fight not to go to the ground so that rules out kicks.

In my view, boxing with a few extras thrown in, is much better than karate in a real self defence situation. so it's a totally legitimate fighting art.

Just look at Chuck Liddel

 

BJJ is great, very effectice martial art, I think in the case of multiple attackers you'll find martial arts that are sport orientated (boxing, BJJ, MMA) aren't as well equipped as something like krav maga like mentioned earlier, which trains speciffically for multiple attackers

 

Here, the vast majority of fights happen on nights out (i.e in or outside bars/clubs) so often multiple people are involved, and it doesn't last too long before the police or bouncers are on the scene. In that respect I'd say boxing has an advantage

 

98% of people don't really know how to fight at all so any martial art will **** them up. In that 2% left over it is a toss up between who executes their martial art first. Then there is that 000.1% of the world that are just bad men (BJ, GSP etc) and it still comes down to execution.

A good boxer versus your average Joe will make him feel like he is in the ****ing matrix. Watch the Turkish man who used to box as an amateur. He tears up about 5 guys, no problem. He is knocking them out with ****ing jabs just because they dont have a clue.

Generally speaking for any martial art to be effective you need to steal a few moves from other martial arts i.e. a wrestler might slip a punch, close the range and take you down. A boxer might push a head away to stuff a takedown attempt and knock the guy out.

Boxing is probably the fastest and most potent tool from A to B and in the street you want to hit fast and hard to just get it over with. In the street it will be very hard to get your timing down so quickly so high kicks etc aren't going to be that effective unless you are fighting a bum.

 

Knowing anything such as boxing vs regular joe is a MONSTROUS advantage! I'm amazed how some people only stick to something like wrestling, or grappling for 100% of there fighting training (no striking at all)....Because sometimes you aren't going to just fight 1 guy.
If your a great wrestler your probably going to wrestle the hell out of some guy, and beat him down when you get ahold of him BUT if he has quick hands, OR a couple buddies it isn't going to matter.
Me personally....I box mainly, do JKD, and some MT, and I also lift heavy weights, and my cardio is *good enough*. I feel like I'm covered no matter what. The only weakness in my game would be wrestling, but I've wrestled around with people who did well in wrestling, same size as me or heavier, and they couldn't do much to me because of my power from lifting so much. After they finally wore me out they beat me, or they were wore out themselves (and it was a draw), but I had them down, and could easily Ground n Pound them in to oblivion if it were allowed.

 

I get the feeling you're full of crap...