Using 'ring rust' as an excuse

I think it's an acceptable excuse when it's four/five years and they're not training properly in-between. Like Fury or Leonard's.

 

You're one of those people who think the word 'explanation' doesn't exist anymore.

 

It's not the same edge in sparring as in an actual fight and maybe you could argue that it took an extra round or so for Loma to really get the feel of things due to the inactivity. But Lopez hadn't been in the ring himself for 10 months, and that wasn't even two rounds. And he has nothing close to Loma's experience, memory bank, to fall back on. So there's nothing to this, just an excuse.

Nobody was saying before the fight that inactivity might make the difference, so they shouldn't be saying it now.

I wonder why the losses of these Eastern European/Russian fighters are so hard to cope with for many. The losses of Kova, GGG and now Loma have had people shitting themselves as no other losses in recent times I can think of.

With that said, this fight was competitive enough for me to want to see a rematch. I think it was a very interesting technical and tactical battle as it was, and it would be intriguing to see how both guys adapts now that they know each other. But Loma would probably really need to bring something to the table to make Lopez interested. Unified titles at 140 maybe.

 

Ring rust is no excuse, the whole boxing world has "ring rust" now due to covid. It's been the same for everyone.

 

I mean even Lopez cited it as a possible reason for Loma starting out very slowly. Guess ring rust isn't a real thing.

 

how would you quantify it? if teo was out for a long time too, what percentage of ring rust can we attribute to teo, compared to loma?

 

Well, Teo is far fresher. By almost a decade. And his style isn't reliant on fast twitch reflexes and ultra mobility.

I'm just saying ring rust is a legitimate thing in boxing and is often cited by fighters. That's what tuneups are for — to scrub away the rust.

Lopez himself claimed that Lomachenko wanted a tune-up initially.

 

so it remains an unmeasurable theory that makes sense, but cant be quantified, so easily accessible as an excuse? yes, ring rust is real, real enough that professionals are aware of it and do what is necessary to counteract the effects. so the only valid excuse is "i thought i was ready, when i really wasnt".

 

Was he rusty when he looked like **** vs campbell?

This is not the first fight where lomachenko looks like crap. The only difference is that he lost it. Were campbell a top level fighter lomachenko would have slept a wonderful nap on the canvas. That's the shitty level he showed.

Let fans do what fans do, anyway. Delusional fans do what delusional fans do. We shouldnt worry very much about it.

And lomachenko is a top level fighter (top top, elite), dont misunderstand me. A top level fighter who looked like crap in his last 2 fights, but it happens to everybody sooner or later.

 

You're pushing back against the idea of ring rust when even Lomachenko's opponent specifically cited it as a possible reason for his inactivity in the first half of the fight.

 

Nope perfect valid. Why can't people just accept that there is always context around a fight? Ring rust is legit a thing especially when you're going into a publicised fight wearing 8-10oz gloves. Especially if you're a 32 year old lightweight boxer who relies on footwork, speed and reflex. And this rust would be pretty significant if you're not fighting at your natural weight and the other dude is should be one or two weight classes higher.

 

im assuming you didnt read that post efficiently.

 

Tyson Fury came off a 2 year cocaine and alcohol fueled bender at 350 pounds and within 12 months fought a 5 year reigning champ on home turf and embarrassed him.

 

It didn't take a genius to know all the excuses that would come up if Loma lost. Although I thought Loma would win, I did not expect him to lose the way he did. I am glad he did lose! I find it terribly satisfying when all the fanboys scramble to find excuses why their hero gets whooped. Any little crack, crease in the win is evidence their hero was horribly robbed and boxing is so, so unfair and for those that disagree, well, we're just dummy's that don't know boxing. That being said, I think any real boxing fan can agree something wasn't right with Loma come fight night. And this is the very reason why we need a rematch. Was Loma off because he was standing in front of a young, hungry man that showed no respect for his stature in the sport or didn't fear Loma's sublime skill or was it a case were Loma just simply underestimated Lopez and realized what was in front of him when it was too late. Only a rematch can answer these questions.