Usyk accepts 70/30 deal, the fight is on!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Sep 27, 2022.



Fury vs. Usyk, who you got?

  1. Fury Points

    24.9%
  2. Fury KO

    16.1%
  3. Draw

    2.1%
  4. Usyk Points

    50.8%
  5. Usyk KO

    6.2%
  1. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Active Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights. That Kronk style works perfectly against the Wilders and Whytes of the world. Usyk is a different beast entirely, requires a whole different approach to beat him.
     
  2. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    I don't disagree with that assessment. We have seen far less talented pressure fighters get to Usyk than Fury though. I think that version of Fury was rough enough to corner Usyk and beat on him through the guard. Not saying it would be a guarantee, but Usyk doesn't want to see that version of Fury, he'd much rather get the Wlad Fury.
     
  3. Ringkaking619

    Ringkaking619 New Member banned Full Member

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    The approach will be to punch him in the face, and I belive it will serve fury pretty well.
     
  4. fruitandnutcase

    fruitandnutcase Member Full Member

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    You're deluded mate

    All of this evidence that Fury hasn't signed and is putting on an act, and yet you're making daily posts genuinely asking when the announcement/poster/presser will be

    Never seen anything like this. Don't even think AJ 'fans' at the peak of AJmania circa 2017-2018 were this bad. Gives me flashbacks to Floyd's fans... except Floyd being a 5-weight world champ, who held world titles across 3 decades and who had 26 world title fights made it slightly more bearable
     
  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "I'd wager"

    You'd lose the wager. I've been saying that Wilder was top 3 at heavyweight for about two years now and I can't remember what my ratings were in 2019 or before. I rate him above Joshua primarily based on his KD/KO threat and his far greater mental strength, as well as not being NOMAS7'd by a 25/1 fringe contender, though Joshua is still in Usyk's tier 1 and better than his other opponents save perhaps Briedis. My opinion of Whyte hasn't changed a jot since he lost to Fury, by the way and I never believed that Fury would be retiring post-Whyte.

    I used to think Wilder was grossly overrated when my primary source for boxing information was watching Hatman videos a couple of years ago. Although prior to that Hatman said that he thought Wilder would beat Joshua, was underrated technically and was the biggest puncher in heavyweight history. It's funny how these narratives change.

    Anyone's record can be critiqued in the way you're attempting to critique Fury's. Objectively Wlad and Wilder had the longest single reigns at heavyweight since 1985 and are recognised as two of the hardest punchers in heavyweight history, along with being 6'5+, athletic, Olympic medallists and having home and A-side advantage.
     
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  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Cunnigham was a good fighter. But now Uysk
     
  7. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's more tier 1 than Joshua.
     
  8. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope, arguably his best win even if he beats him fairly.
    Fury would get a lot of credit if he mans up and winst that fight before summer.
     
  9. Ringkaking619

    Ringkaking619 New Member banned Full Member

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    Cunningham was about 10 years ago, Fury obviously wasn't the fighter he is today, that fight was around the time he was getting floored by Neven Pajkic and his uncle told him if you aren't going to take this sport seriously to just retire.

    Also, as soon as fury stopped faffing about, he beat Cunningham up very, very quickly.

    Not sure why people still keep bringing up that fight, the fact things that happened 10 years ago is really all they have to criticise fury is telling.
     
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  10. lepinthehood

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    I'm testing the fury fans
     
  11. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    I'm a fan of both Usyk and Fury. However, I'm a far bigger fan of Usyk than I am of Fury, easily.

    I'll definitely say that Usyk has more class as a man in his little finger than Fury has in his whole being.

    I'm not so sure that Usyk out classes Fury on fight night in the ring though.

    I can see a way for both fighters to genuinely win here. I'll be rooting for Usyk for sure on the night, I'm just not sure Usyk will win this fight though.
     
  12. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Active Member Full Member

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    When you have someone who took the best that punchers like Briedis, Gassiev or Joshua can offer and didn't even flinch, Tyson "I needed 150 power punches and 11 rounds to stop a stationary, zero head movement, flat-footed one-trick-pony" Fury won't just punch that guy in the face, mate. First, Fury has to get to him - and that needs speed which is problematic as Usyk is faster than Fury. You can't hit what's not there when you get there - and then comes the problem of Usyk's iron chin. He is simply all wrong for Fury stylistically.
     
  13. Braindamage

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    I cannot recall any Fury fans prior to the 1st fight saying anything positive about Wilder. I asked you to provide posts of you claiming Wilder was top tier before the 1st fight. Now, perhaps you mean top tier in the sense of top of the division, I'm speaking in terms of skill.

    As far as my critique of Fury goes, I only push back when Fury fans claim he's the greatest HW of all time. I never questioned skill, but in my opinion, it takes more than skill and mythical matches for me to consider Fury or any fighter an ATG.
     
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  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    By what measure? AJ has a much better resume than Wilder. You think Wilder would have only lost to Fury if he fought the same guys AJ has? I think he would have slept Ruiz, lost the Wlad and Usyk.
     
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  15. Ringkaking619

    Ringkaking619 New Member banned Full Member

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    Joshua has commit the cardinal sin of quitting, and mentally folding in the ring, multiple times. This is the worst sin a fighter can have, there is no bigger damnation in boxing than being mentally weak in the ring.

    You can talk about resume and skill all you like, but Wilder has shown 10x the mental resolve of Joshua, and has shown he would rather be knocked unconscious than give up. Joshua would rather give up, than be hit.

    Thats what "measure", and it more important than any other.
     
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