I cannot recall any Fury fans prior to the 1st fight saying anything positive about Wilder. I asked you to provide posts of you claiming Wilder was top tier before the 1st fight. Now, perhaps you mean top tier in the sense of top of the division, I'm speaking in terms of skill. As far as my critique of Fury goes, I only push back when Fury fans claim he's the greatest HW of all time. I never questioned skill, but in my opinion, it takes more than skill and mythical matches for me to consider Fury or any fighter an ATG.
By what measure? AJ has a much better resume than Wilder. You think Wilder would have only lost to Fury if he fought the same guys AJ has? I think he would have slept Ruiz, lost the Wlad and Usyk.
Joshua has commit the cardinal sin of quitting, and mentally folding in the ring, multiple times. This is the worst sin a fighter can have, there is no bigger damnation in boxing than being mentally weak in the ring. You can talk about resume and skill all you like, but Wilder has shown 10x the mental resolve of Joshua, and has shown he would rather be knocked unconscious than give up. Joshua would rather give up, than be hit. Thats what "measure", and it more important than any other.
Joshua quit once. It hasn't happened since and he showed plenty of mettle vs Wlad and Usyk. I don't see much evidence for lack of resolve. He immediately rematched Ruiz and won easily. If he lacked resolve why do that. Why rematch Usyk either?
He mentally quit against Usyk in both fights. When you get on your bike for 4 rounds and are too scared to exchange with a cruiserweight, that's a quit, you have stopped trying to win and just don't want to be hurt. Ruiz 2 he was petrified. Anthony joshua has very little heart, very little. Deontay has huge heart.
Heart is not the most important measure for a fighter. Skill, resume are a greater measure. Duran blows your heart theory out of the water. Duran is an ATG through and through. He quit and wasn't getting whooped nearly as bad as AJ was. Gatti had heart, you place him above Duran?
One right hand baby that's all it takes and we back on track one face one name one champion name Deontay Wilder baby.
NEET doing what NEET does, switches to a new alt to save himself being banned on his latest ‘primary account’. Get a job, you bum.
I think he would have slept that retired Wlad, but lost to Usyk yes. He beats everyone but Usyk. He'd also have slept AJ.
It seems that public opinion and perception towards Fury has changed since the Chisora fight. People are DEMANDING the Usyk unification fight and Fury's antics make it seem like he doing everything to avoid the fight and instead talking about an exhbition against Ngannou and other fighters. He can't fight in America anymore due to the Daniel Kinnahan links He turned down MEGA money from the Saudis And now looks like he is going to bottle it against Usyk despite Usyk accepting a very low 70/30 payday split. offer. The British fans are glory supports and would turn their back on you in instant (just a cultural thing) and stick the knife in while you're on the way down (look at how they treat AJ nowadays) so will they remain loyal to Fury (the same Fury they used to call a "pikey **** a few years ago) or not?
I'm British and I don't agree with what your saying, the reason fans turned on Joshua because he acted like a disrespectful moron after the Usyk fight. Instead of just taking his L like a man and moving on, which fans and British fans alike would've respected him for. His humble fake persona was exposed and rightly fans turned on him. All fans are fickle the nationality has nothing to do with it.
"I asked you to provide posts of you claiming Wilder was top tier before the 1st fight" Where did you ask me that? You were talking about how I'd probably only jumped on the Wilder bandwagon after the 3rd fight and when I thought Fury would retire. I wasn't posting on boxing forums prior to fight 1 or even fight 2, so it's impossible anyway. The best I could do is send you a post written several months before fight 3. "ATG" It's very opinion-based because there are no strict standards for entry. Fury's career is still ongoing so it's premature to make conclusive judgements.
