Usyk accepts 70/30 deal, the fight is on!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Sep 27, 2022.


Fury vs. Usyk, who you got?

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  3. Draw

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  1. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You debate well, especially considering it's not your native language, but I think you are a bit better than being wilfully omissive. Prior to Klitschko, Fury fought in Ireland, Canada and the USA. That's not "almost exclusively at home". If you are going to compare him to his main heavyweight rivals when they first challenged for a title, Wilder had only fought outside the US twice (Mexico) and Anthony Joshua zero.

    You imply he was almost pushed into the Klitschko and Wilder fights against his will, and out of sheer necessity alone. He clearly was desperate to fight Klitschko. He spent the early part of his career working towards it. Obviously fighting Wilder gave his profile a bit of a boost, but he was under no obligation to do it so early in his comeback. He could've given it another 6 months if he wanted, the fight would've still been there, but he choose to do it 6 months into his comeback. This, again, wasn't out of necessity.

    It's also not strictly true that he fought Wilder "instead" of Joshua - especially in the way you're trying to frame it as some sort of duck. He was offered a run of fights by Hearn (Whyte, Bellew, Joshua) and that's all we know. We have no idea what the terms would've been. Given that Joshua was very much the golden boy at this time, I'm sure the terms would've been completely unfavourable to Fury. Rightly or wrongly, Fury has always seen himself as the number 1 in the UK and his ego wouldn't let him take any sort of deal where he's not the "A side". That Hearn proposal was clearly a non-starter. As a result of rejecting that and fighting Wilder, Fury got that enormous ESPN deal.

    If Fury actively prevents the Usyk fight from happening and fights Ngannou or someone in April - your last paragraph about "most money, least risk" may hold some validity. But until then, it's not a valid argument because the fight looks on course to be made. Some gave the Chisora fight a bit of a pass, simply due to him wanting to stay active, on the proviso he fought Usyk next. It is still looking very likely to happen.
     
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  2. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BT and Queensbury aren't stupid - there would be uproar if that happened. It would be horrendous for their brand.
     
  3. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    PLEASEEEEEEEEE

    Not ****ing Dubois.

    How the **** is Dubois a mandatory after beating Lerena? Who knocked him down 3 times in one round? FFS.
     
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  4. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    In my eyes, the Chisora trilogy is inexcusable under any circumstances as it officially was a title defence. It could have been a stay-busy fight without the belt on the line. It would have sold Wembley out just the same because Fury has a fanatic following. But it was made a voluntary title defence deliberately because WBC is known for their reluctance to order mandatories, especially in HW. Fury knew that by taking Chisora on he can basically do whatever the hell he wants without the WBC batting an eyelid until at least early 2024.

    I'll give you one thing though that does give a glimpse of hope about this fight going ahead: John Fury is uncharacteristically quiet these days. We haven't heard from him in what seems to be a very long time (by his standards) as normally, he always talks all kinds of sh**e without too much forethought. For instance, he was the one mentioning the 70/30 split even without Tyson himself posting about it. So it does feel like John was made silent by Team Fury indeed because there is an important announcement to be made soon and they don't want Uncle Fester to spill the beans by accident again.
     
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  5. goku23

    goku23 Member Full Member

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    It would hold complete validity.
    Agreed on your other points though.
     
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  6. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's hope so - I just want to see the fight get made.
     
  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    So annoying. 70/30 wtf Usyk know your worth. Fight isn't happening.
     
  8. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    I was growing cautiously optimistic that this fight was going to happen, but it sure seems like an announcement this week would still be too late. 6 weeks out?
     
  9. Daz_F

    Daz_F New Member banned Full Member

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    If this 70/30 split is true, Usyk has already lost this fight. The massive difference in purse split means that Usyk has deliberately taken on the beta boy role to Fury’s Alpha male status, and it’s going to effect his training, sparring and emotional state from now up to the fight. Fury has played a masterstroke here - Usyk’s best move would be to break off and renegotiate a fairer, less dominating contract. Usyk’s probably so diminished by this contact and purse split that he’s already wearing sexy lingerie and moisturising. Terrible mistake by Team Usyk.
     
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  10. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nah it shows him to be a legacy first boxer and a man that doesnt care about money.
    Basically the man Fury pretends to be.
    Usyk backed him into a cirner by calling his bluff.
    Fury either accepts or looks like the biggest ***** ever if he weasels out.
     
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  11. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    they don't need much time to promote this fight
     
  12. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    I hope you are right.
     
  13. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And apparently from all I have read, Fury has still not signed the contract, Even though he’s getting 70% as he asked, and Usyk has now also agreed to know rematch Claus……. still Fury has not signed……this late in the game"

    IMO, this is for a reason. Regardless of his bold mouthing, Fury is not taking the fight

    …that would be my guess
     
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  14. drenlou

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    Fight isn't happening in April at least. I expect Fury-Ngannou, and Usyk-Dubois next.
     
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  15. Heavyrighthand

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    Why hasn’t Fury signed the contract?

    even though he’s gotten everything he’s asked for

    I don’t think it’s happening