Usyk: "After I get a ride of Fury I'm going to talk with Wilder".

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  1. BCS8

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    :lol:
     
  2. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No the rules of boxing are fine, they just need to be ENFORCED.
    Unless Usyk gets away with fouling in return-& that is effective, & it is unlikely both conditions will apply-Usyk will not be able to effectively counter that cheating.

    The fact is that if one very talented, (in this case huge helps a lot too) gets away with enough foul play, there is no reason to expect the other guy will be likely to be able to defeat him.
    It is up to boxing to regulate itself, & the best Usyk & fans can do is raise a lot of pre-emptive noise about it early.

    Only because Frazier's camp complained bitterly about the hugfest (133 times was the count I believe) that was the 12 rounds of Ali-Frazier 2, AND the referee warned Ali twice early, did we get a historically great & super-competitive Thrilla in Manilla.
     
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    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If you mean me you are wrong.
    First off, it is unknown if Fury will clinch hug & maul his way to victory-but he may.
    If he DOES, how can you possibly NOT discredit winning with such one sided cheating?
     
  4. Ex Army Jim 39

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    whether he wins or loses he wants to fight the best hes a very likeable Maan I think him and Joyce I like most but admire fury wilder is so exciting these are the best around by the looks of things
     
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    There were a few fights where there was enough cheating where it was NOT a legitimate win.
    Other times it is a grey area, but all of those boxers legitimately won the vast majority of their bouts.
    Ali vs. Frazier 2? Over 11 clinches & pulls per round means unlike say Foreman-Frazier-where the pushing rules should have been enforced anyway-is so excessive, such a drain & illegal arresting on one fighter, that we have no idea who would have won in an honestly officiated fight.

    "Impose himself" on Usyk?
    That is fine IF it is legitimate in-fighting, or occasional unconscious holding.
    When would you rule that it is wrong, unfair, illegitimate?
    "Imposing" oneself via disabling low blows? Anything is OK IF you can get away with it?
    Chewing on or biting off parts of the opponents face?

    Use logic, not tribal favoritism for "your" fighter.
    If Usyk gets away with successful headbutts & elbows that disorient & open cuts that stun Fury, bleed badly, & eventually stop the fight, is that "imposition" fine?

    No, but there is no indication Usyk would do this.
    But it is the fault of boxing & the referee IF one fighter gets away with Highway Robbery.
     
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    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The rules of boxing were dramatically different when it was conceived & for a while.
    Now that fighters cannot take a knee to end rounds & throw the other guy to the ground, the most you can argue is that it is inevitable that there will be some wrestling for position in clinches, but it IS the referees responsibility to break it up quickly & warn those using it as a tactic.

    Usyk is more likely to want to attack the body in close, & if Fury hugs & holds a lot, he would get a great deal more out of it than he loses. Largely in terms of exhausting Usyk, & thwarting an attack.

    Everyone does not know what weight Usyk will come in, like the speculation was all over the place last time.
    215 is only 6 lbs. lighter for him, he may be around that weight.
    But if he is prevented from moving due to frequent holding-or if Usyk did that to anyone-allowing this would be corrupt.
     
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    Wladimir did clinch to often & had home cooking rules enforcement.
    Who said that Fury is guilty before it happened? Not me, but this applies to anyone who acts this way.
    However his length & weight would make it a formidable strategy if deployed & permitted.

    I do not see that Usyk will avoid the HWs like you say.
    If he does, feel free to gloat.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Good post
     
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  9. miniq

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    Fury is going to grab Usyk's little neck, drag him to the corner post, climb the ropes then super duplex somersault him into the canvas

    & there is nothing the ref can do to stop it.
     
  10. MAD_PIGE0N

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    It was very you, good to remember what you talk.


    I do even now, you don't, do you?
     
  11. Mickc

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    It wasn’t Fury who said no to a December fight and put it back to 2023 .
     
  12. slash

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    That's good. Bold. I don't see any of these other top 5 calling out anybody

    and meaning it

    Usyk is a man right after my own heart

    c'mon, you mother****ers. right now
     
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  13. Entaowed

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    No, I warned about a very possible Fury tactic, I did not say he is guilty already or he will definitely do that.
    Go back & read what I wrote.

    Part of the problem is your English, You said: "I do even now, you don't, do you?".
    Does this mean you are saying you know that Fury will avoid the HWs? Those first 4 words do not make sense.
    If you did, he recently said in an interview starting a thread here that he wanted to unify the titles & fights Fury & Joyce.
    I see no reason to assume he is lying or will back off.
     
  14. Entaowed

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    You know this is nonsense.
    There is also no indication Fury-who has very little muscle mass or strength compared to a pro wrestler or a HW amateur one, despite any PEDs he is believed o have taken...Would do at all well in any legitimate wrestling match ups.
    You saw the video of Usyk talking about those he wants to take on? In no way is his beck "littte".

    You have become divorced from reality re: Tyson Fury.
    I wonder if you even know that those jumping off the ring moves while an opponent is helpless to defend themselves or just walk away is highly unrealistic, & totaly scripted.
     
  15. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "A ride of Fury"? Did he really say that, lol. He's too feel of himself to realize that may come out as fruity.