Usyk: "After I get a ride of Fury I'm going to talk with Wilder".

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  1. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fury needs to step up and fight Usyk instead of these bums like Whyte and Chisora.
     
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  2. MAD_PIGE0N

    MAD_PIGE0N ... banned Full Member

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    You said it's very likely - why? He was more of a brawler and a slugger once in his third Wilder fight.

    I said that I do gloat, yes and I hinted that more or less you do the same. For whatever reason you don't get it it doesn't matter, but my English seems good enough to otherwise understand me (I'm not saying it's on the greatest level especially to a native speaker). Didn't say anything about Usyk or Fury avoiding anyone. I doubt they do even that I suspect Usyk a bit because the way he acted after his second Joshua fight - called Fury, Fury agreed and Usyk suddenly decided he wants to be with his family and that he's injured. And kept silence for his comeback for two months until Fury arranges a fight. Anyway, Usyk should fight some other top (definitely not Canelo, that's a shame) or have a mandatory defense, Fury should go for some top fighter too.
     
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  3. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why bring it up?
    why imagine it & also imagine to be one-sided?

    define "maul '.
     
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  4. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if one fighter wins using excessive & constant fouls the vast majority of us will voice outrage. at the fighter & referee & or judges.

    but Fury doesn't do that. so why have I seen it brought up by several people here in advance of a possible win over Usyk?
     
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  5. Mr Stagger Lee

    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    What physical gifts does Fury bring?
     
  6. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You have abandoned the idea that I said Fury was guilty, because now you just ask why I bring it up.
    You should first admit you were wrong.
    Next point-Fury has been all over the place in what he claims & does re: retirement, now saying he will fight 20 more times, makes outrageous statements of all kinds-& it seems unlikely that he onloy ate tainted boar meat instead of taking PEDs.
    If you think he is one of the few who tested dirty who really just made a mistake, tell us.

    All of this shows it is very plausible Fury will be willing to bend &/or break the rules.
    And of course when he is SO much larger than Usyk-in height, weight, reach-but not muscle mass per square inch, he has much more body fat-of course it is only a plausible strategy for the much larger man to try this or maul effectively.

    Also have you heard of anything dishonorable rule breaking, or dihonest that Usyk ever did in 350 + fights?

    I am surprised you ask about the definition of maul, but maybe it is because English is not your first language, & if you look it up the literal definition often involves cutting or tearing the skin.
    No I & others are using it figuratively in terms of wrestling, pulling, holding etc.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Speed for his size
    Stamina for his size
    Footspeed for his size (although he can be very hit and miss in this department)
    Upper body & head movement for his size
     
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  8. Entaowed

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    Please show me where I said it was "very likely" Fury will maul & hold.
    If I did I will retract that & admit a mistake-but it is very possible given the advantage he would get from that, & citing a sinngle fight where he changes his strategy does not accurately represent what he overwhelmingly is-a boxer, & like second career Ali, they may well hold & pull for an advantage.

    However I think you are wrong about what I said due to limitations in language/writing here.
    I literally cut & pasted your remark: you did not use the word "gloat" there, although you are being honest & do not realize that.
    If you hinted about me gloating nobody can tell-& show me where I was gloating please.
    Specifically cut & paste my words.

    Normally I think top level fighters should be active.
    However I do not think we have reason to doubt the plausibility of what Usyk said about his motivations.
    Also he said he needed to heal-where did he say he was injured?
    Given how active Usyk has been his whole fighting career, his circumstances including with his nation the Ukraine, & comparing it to Fury who has fought infrequently over the years...
    We should view Usyk as being very reasonable & honorable here.

    And stating this as an opinion is also not gloating.
     
  9. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Usyk got ‘touched’ multiple times flush by Joshua and was fine. Joshua is a better boxer than Deontey and hits almost as hard. What happens when Deontey gets cracked with one of those Usyk straight lefts flush?? Lol Wilder isn’t exactly Willie Pep in the defense category. It will happen!!

    Usyk will have Wilder out of there before 9.
     
  10. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk hits like a granny
     
  11. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Nah. He stings plenty hard. He keeps these dudes honest and hurts them in every fight.
     
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  12. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, I didn't say you said Fury was guilty. I said people are already discrediting Fury's win over Usyk.

    every boxer bends & breaks rule.

    all boxers use "wrestling, pulling, holding" at times.
     
  13. Mr Stagger Lee

    Mr Stagger Lee Active Member Full Member

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    Stamina I can partially agree with you on but I think he could be far better in that area.
    Foot speed, OK but can be very flat footed.
    Upper body and head movement, in my opinion not very good. I've said before he can sometimes slip punches well, especially when backed onto the ropes, when he can be bothered! I think what helps his punch avoidance more than any body or head movement skill, is his height. He is a very awkward customer, can hide behind a large forearm then bring a crunching punch over the top. Uses his weight to lean on an opponent and wear them down without doing that I don't think he would fair as well as he has. A awkward ref could make a long fight very difficult for him. Having said all of that you do have to give him credit to do what he does at that size, sometimes just wish he was little more tuned in his overall delivery.
     
  14. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this is inaccurate.
    Fury is almost 14 years as a professional & about to have his 34th pro fight.
    Usyk is 9 years as professional & has had 20 fights.

    Usyk has been 1 fight a year for last 4 years.
     
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  15. mrbigshot

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    I like usyk but talk is cheap .

    Fury wanted to fight him and it was usyk who refused .

    I will believe a fight of him vs wilder when it happens since there is no belt to win but a big risk for usyk to suddenly hit the canvas from wilders right hand .

    Up to know its for me just cheap talk in a try to show he is not ducking both . ( what in fact he does )
     
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