USyK: "AJ more aggressive in the rematch? I'll be glad to experience even that side of him".

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  1. BrutalForeman

    BrutalForeman Active Member Full Member

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    AJ should do relentless roadwork and look to make an ugly, dirty brawl of a fight
     
  2. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Usyk too fast for Joshua. He was aggressive, and got picked off. A more conservative approach with how he fought Wlad and Povetkin would be better. He's not winning on points, needs to set traps and fight in spurts.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    The reason he didn't fight aggressively is because he would gas out and get stopped, or walk straight into a hard shot and get stopped.
    But he has no chance of outboxing Usyk, so he might well resort to the desperate plan.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we see AJ using all sorts of fouls, and getting lauded by the stupid British pundits for it, but hopefully we will have a good referee who will dock points and disqualify if needed.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    AJ is learning to levitate and shoot fireballs out of his eyes in America, so this will be a draw.
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He has said he'll do as much.
     
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  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Bunce, Froch, Bellew and other assorted pundit cretins will absolutely love it if he does.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Tbf, it's hard to imagine a route to victory for AJ that doesn't involve breaking the rules and if he pitches just right it could have some effect.
     
  8. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Yes, that's true.
    But it is desperation certainly.
    The reason I'm taking aim at those 'pundits' is because of the criticism some of them gave AJ for fighting clean, among other things, last time out. Trying to be clever, they said Joshua got it all wrong, but the advice amounted to "rush in like a man possessed" and "duh, break some rules ..."
    :lol:
     
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  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly what you see in the clip till the 1:15 will happen.

    Out of Prime Usyk at 35 will school Joshua.

    And i expected a bit more boxing eye from some people on here that have the claims to understand boxing and so.

    Firstly i rate Joshua very highly and he is an excellent Boxer and absolutely top notch all around fighter, but won't go into the details in this.
    Second i don't buy for a second all the b.c. narrative on here, how he is mentally ruined after Ruiz and so.

    The reality is this. This was a typical Joshua against smaller man.
    He fight pretty much the same with some improvements into his movement, counter punching ability(always was good), and a bit more defensively minded, when there is a live opponent against him:
    Here is the prime example:
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    He is boxing on the outside calmly, take his time, working on the body occasionally and waiting for counter shot and to connect with something big that hurt his opponent, and then step on the gas.
    He pretty much use the same tactic against Pulev as well. He uses similar tactics with Parker as well.

    So the question that some people may ask now, and the question is quite obvious. Why then Hearn every single week gives interview explaining how Joshua didn't have strategy, the tactic was wrong, he was trying to outbox Usyk and all that nonsenses.
    This is just the excuses for the lose, and Joshua to look a bit more better in the eye of the people. Otherwise he has to said, he was Beaten by the better man.
    This is a damage control stuffs. And Hearn is doing it the right way, in terms how it must be done. Wilder is the example of how you should not act after a fight.
    Anyway i'm annoyed by Hearn and decide to open some people eyes.

    Let us summary:
    Joshua was having a clear game plan and that was the best game plan he could have made. What they got wrong though is that they didn't expect Usyk to be that fast, too move that way, and obviously to have that output from the first to last round. They obviously expected Usyk to be more aged, as they know that he is past his prime. They expected Usyk to get tired at some point, like what happen with Povetkin and then Joshua to catch him with something big, and move on the offense, just like with Povetkin and Pulev.
    Hearn by himself admitted that they didn't expect Usyk to be that busy and AJ was talking about battle of conditioning, so they are plan was exactly what i explained.
    Usyk promoter Alex Krassyuk also said that the fight was in doubt and that Joshua was on the Usyk - Chsiroa fight and decided to face Usyk only after the Chisora fight.
    So they obviously expected Usyk to be more aged, and to not have much in the tank left.

    Going full blown against Usyk can lead to multiple bad scenarios, which they obviously can see happen, and namely:

    That could lead to nasty counters by Usyk, and when you are on the front foot, when you get countered hit, the punches weight and hurt more.
    Usyk chin is well known to be a solid one, so even if he caught him with an combination of punches, Usyk chin may stood to the barrage, and also counters are always a thing, but as well as fatigue.
    Going full blown will always empty your tank quite fast, no matter how much of a great stamina you have(no matter what people say AJ cardio is decent, but nothing spectacular).

    So people that buying Hearn b.c. should use their brain.
    P.P. This is not a hate rant towards AJ or Hearn. I like them both, but i'm tired of hearing same excuses with few added, every single week on the media from Hearn. He obviously know how to do it, but i obviously know how "read" !!!
     
  10. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joshua has never demonstrated that he would go out on his shield, so I don't think he is capable of an overly aggressive approach.
     
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  11. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    It will be interesting, but this could go either way definitely. Usyk's never dealt with someone of AJ's size using this method.
     
  12. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    We'll probably see him hitting after the bell again, which will go unpunished.
     
  13. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    But will cry the blues if one of Joshua's opponents does it to him. Oh the humanity!