Usyk and AJ VADA test results are in

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    AJ does not use PEDS those who have accused him are they ones who have failed drugs tests.
     
  2. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Yeah, I'm sure the 6'6", 240 lb, <10% bodyfat, elite performance athlete is natty.

    A bodybuilder can pass all the tests, but one glance at their physique tells you all you need to know.
     
  3. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know things are messed up when fighters passing drug tests is breaking news :risas3:.
     
  4. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course some can. You don’t think having a nearly unlimited amount of stamina would help a boxer press the pace while constantly moving?? Usyk may very well be clean, but I think his point is that PEDS absolutely help.
    A hypothetical…take two identical Usyks. Have one train proper but have him be perfectly clean. Have the other one train the same way and give him biologically identical testosterone to keep him on the high end of normal/testing limit at all times. Sprinkle on some EPO for the ol’ gas tank. I guarantee that Usyk #1 is getting ****ed right up.
     
  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    AJ has visited Canelo and Eddie R.

    Maybe we should retest him :dunno
     
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  6. red corner

    red corner Active Member banned Full Member

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    Not to my knowledge.
     
  7. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Mine neither.
     
  8. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well thats already more than the alternative.
     
  9. Ivan28

    Ivan28 Active Member Full Member

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    It would be better without VADA, WADA and all that "fair testing".They care only for power and money, not for the sport or the people.
     
  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    And they broke the HW record for punches in Manilla over 14 rounds in 1971.
     
  11. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Where is the evidence for that?
    It is extremely naive & irrational to believe everybody who ever cheats & lies is caught in any & every test.
    Likewise it is extremely cynical, unfair & illogical to assume that the body is totally corrupt & everyone cheats-without presenting good evidence for such a huge accusation.
     
  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eddie Hearn, is that you?
     
  13. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why ignore & demean what I said by using sarcasm?
    I had to google who Hearn was, figured he was a promoter.
    Unlike what he is likely to say, I was not trumpeting how clean athletes are or how great testing is.

    So if you respond, please this time be direct & answer rationally.
    I am not remotely telling you everyone or almost everyone is clean.
    Again: it is unjust & unreasonable to assume everyone is dirty, lying, cheating...From athletes to everyone in an sports body absent any evidence of such a sweeping indictment.

    We distinguish science from B.S. by considering truisms such as "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".
    You saying everyone is completely corrupt is extraordinary.
    Since you do not have any evidence, I hope you will reconsider your faith-based belief-in not believing anyone is decent.
     
  14. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My apologies i meant to quote someone else but I had two pages open.

    I will respond later when I get to work.

    Pleaae don't be offended, it was not my intention to mock you.
     
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  15. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No problemo man, these confusions happen.
    It is 3:33 in the AM here, you must be in a very different place than E.S.T./NYC!
    See ya tomorrow.