Usyk being lowballed with offers from Rematch Eddie / Team AJ - do they want USYK smoke?

Hysterical fans with silly amounts of emotional investment infest this sub forum. It's ridiculous really. We all have favourite fighters, but in reality there's nothing any of us can do to impact results. Amazing how emotionally invested some get.

 

What could this even be based on? I know it's not quality of opposition.

 

It's because the power in the negotiations sits with one party, who therefore drive a hard bargain and onlookers then want them to concede more than they have to.

This frustration will pass once negotiations are completed and the fight build-up begins.

An alternative strategy is to ignore all of the discussions between two groups of multimillionaire's. This is effective, but would result in a significant decline in 'why oh why' and 'Hearns is the divvil incarnate' threads to enjoy...

 

20-25% of the purse for an AJ fight is more money than Usyk has ever being paid with a chance to make more money in a rematch I think you bite off their hand.

 

Usyk wanted 96% of the split vs Joyce. If i am team AJ offer him a flat fee, and walk away if he doesnt accept

 

We know what the mandatory split is. The reality is however that when you fight a cash cow, you accept less than the split fee as it dwalfs anything you have earned previously. I dont know what the pot is but if he is offered £5mil - then bite his hand off.

Only thing that pi**es me off is when they try and write in the split for the rematch. If Usyk beats AJ then he should be getting a big chunk in a rematch.

 

Absolutely no.
As a boxer A.J is nothing special even if he will be undisputed. Nothing special. Nice guy, good boxer.

The power is life not peanuts from eddie and western fans thinking that their B side guys are with empty pockets.

I actually think that Usyk should had retired instead of continuing to fight after WBSS1.
If he picked to continue, at least he should school selfish businessmans with milking, maybe also A.J with punching.
A.J really is nothing special and will be always nothing special.
Even if he will be undisputed, he will remain as nothing special there. Replaceable average large, skilled and nice boxer, good lad I think.
Nothing more.

 

Forget their boxing skills, I'm only talking about commercial power in the negotiation. Hearn has most of the cards, by virtue of Joshua's earning capacity, the WBO mandatory conditions, his monopoly with sky sports box office for AJ and possession of the three belts.

He doesn't hold all the cards, team Usyk will have their say and maybe they could amass a sizeable purse bid if they wanted to seize control of the fight. It would be difficult however with a 75/25 split and Hearns position wit the likely PPV main income generator, for a Usyk bid to blow him out of the water without risking massive losses.

 

Commerical power now sometimes higher than boxers does have former or currrent mma pros, YT specialists and like this too.
Why not, look, the same YT star might get more than Okolie vs Glowacki fight together for both of them.
YT star vs a grappler in boxing fight.

Of course and I think sooner or later all this business will be in old roads: stars and top guys from proper countries and with proper origin to generate more income.
Why not, this is not much different than Hollywood: better sold films are created more often and more well known stars are used more often.

It isn't oly wrestling.

They ask $ and if $ rullz, in reality sometimes maybe well known actor or musician might get more attention than good boxers even from the same U.S.
More attention= more money.


If Usyk is about money, he might accept to be used for A.J record fight, why not. All this pride etc are for fans.
If no, he will not accept eddie clauses even if he will not get fight vs A.J. I don't think that he should claim that he is poor even by upper middle class standards for richest cities in the world. Nope.


I more interested about clauses cos eddie had proved clauses with Pov - Whyte rather than their purses.
Will A.J and Usyk get 1000m or 1m, does not worry me. Unless maybe these clauses and rematches, delays in fights happened etc.
For example Oly wrestling is cool: they quickly fight in row , 1 year oly games, 3 years World championships, then again oly games etc.

Pro boxe: we get long talks there.

 

The best so called " quality opposition " A.J had were over the hill boxers.
Do not sell me as A.J greatness old Povetkin beat up.
Sorry, Huck for me does have more credentials for fight vs Povetkin than A.J and this always will remain this one for me.
Also sorry, even vs Takam Povetkin was more impressive than A.J who had beated him after he already had been beated up by Povetkin.

You really think A.J is more skilled than prime Huck cos he beated old Povetkin?
Joshi most likely never had fought vs undefeated 32 y.o Povetkin if he was smaller than Pov.
Huck did this.

Sorry, quality of sales Josh does have better, I agree and he does have better fanbase.

So Josh is good boxer cos he had processed boxers beated by Wlad, Vitali and even Pov.
So specific his oppositon quality is, thank you that you had reminded this one to bring up.

So cool A.J is : he is not much better than Parker and Ruiz.

A.J is worse than prime Povetkin ate this and keep yell there. A.J is not much better than Parker and Ruiz Jr.

 

Everything you have wrote backs up that Usyk is not a draw. Bellew and Haye are Brits with huge following. Hardcore US boxing fan know who Usyk is. Causal fans do not. Casual are the ones that make or break PPV.

 

Holy mackerel. What's your first language, man?

 

Whats your's?