Usyk Beltline & Low Blow Controversy/Dubois Was Robbed! Dump Thread.

1. Fury
2. Wilder
3. Usyk

 

Well the ref said it was low, and it seems plausible it was low so don't care.

Dubois couldn't capitilise and basically quit. I'm not mad at the decision.

 

It was a slight low blow. Not a nut shot by any means, but anything under the belly button is considered a foul. It's definitely not along the lines of Trinidad-Vargas.

 

The way he and his people react to this situation, tells me that he is a loser.

 

That was a very astute statement.

 

The Usual suspects creating more and more Alts these days

 

The stain on your shorts will never leave.

 

Looks photo shopped. Look closely at the top of the trunks. The black line is not consistant, like the front section was raised by cut and paste.

 

I feel the same.

No, not the same as a rematch from scratch but Dubois certainly still had his chances to capitalise after the fact but failed quite badly.

I want to see Usyk vs Fury, stat. That’s of course if the all conquering Fury manages to get by Ngannou.

If Francis can pull off a million to one KO, talk of the “low blow” maybe quickly be forgotten and become a distant memory.

 

Currently a third of this forum is disingenuous. Makes a lot of sense.

 

I think that would be very apt - the fight was held in Poll Land after all <ducks tomato at high velocity coming his way>.

 

I am genuinely shocked all these haters have come from no where.

Usyk was the hero beating AJ twice now he has a target on his back? Why I wonder...maybe because he has Tyson Fury running for the hills.

 

If this poll comes out at 50/50, we might have to reach a compromise and call it a “Lowgal”punch. Uh oh, more fruit coming my way.

 

Very well said mate!

 

Usyk has been officially knocked down at least three times from body shots (Levit 2011, Beterbiev 2011, Majidov 2013), with three additional known debatable instances (Beterbiev 2012, Joshua 2022, Dubois 2023).

So it's clearly been a chink in his armour throughout his career, at least relative to his iron chin. Usyk's vulnerability to the body/below the beltline can be overstated though as he's 6-0 against these opponents in fights where they dropped him or arguably dropped him.

Usyk has developed a highly effective strategy to mollify this weakness, albeit one which depends on sympathetic officiating:

1. By complaining to the referee every time a borderline shot lands, Usyk deters the opponent from throwing both low blows and bodyshots, provided that the referee at least warns the opponent

2. Usyk chastising the opponent can further deter him, as can a vocal pro-Usyk crowd

3. The judges are less likely to score a bodyshot if Usyk complains about it and they also may be less likely to score bodyshots against Usyk than they would be against other fighters if Usyk doesn't react, with the judges assuming that the punch either missed, only partially landed or was blocked

4. Hitting Usyk with borderline shots is very risky as he may go down, ham it up, possibly have it ruled an intentional low blow, quit and still win by DQ, or at least get points deducted from the opponent

5. Even if the punch is ruled an accidental low blow, Usyk can take up to five minutes to recover, replenishing his strength and stamina and frustrating the opponent, as well as potentially getting points deducted from the opponent

6. If Usyk has already gone down on an alleged low blow in the fight, the opponent may be even more hesitant about throwing similar shots as next time it could be ruled intentional or ruled intentional again, resulting in further point deductions or an Usyk quitjob DQ win

7. "Ukrainian war hero" and “devout Christian” Usyk doesn’t throw dirty shots himself (unlike J. Ruiz, Hopkins), which helps him get the benefit of the doubt from the officials when he complains

Of course, if Usyk turns his back or goes down and the punch is ruled legal then that’s probably bad for him but it’s not necessarily disastrous: history shows that he recovers well, is excellent defensively in a tough situation, if he wins at least seven rounds on two cards then one KD against him doesn’t change the result and the opponent may empty their tank trying to take him out (as Joshua did in the rematch, which effectively surrendered the critical final three rounds to Usyk).

Usyk has also probably benefited from the comical idiocy of his last two opponents, who cost themselves the benefit of the doubt pre-fight:

Joshua: "Hit him on the hip, let the referee tell me off. It's a fight."

Dubois: "Headbutts, knees. I'll beat Usyk by any means necessary."