Usyk Beltline & Low Blow Controversy/Dubois Was Robbed! Dump Thread.

I didn't claim that the ref was corrupt. But it's fair to say that Usyk was "lucky" that he ruled it low. It was very borderline, but a lot of fans are justifiably outraged and see it as a legal shot. And the angle showing it landing does validate that view. On the contrary, the opposite view tells a different story. Two angles, two conclusions largely based on the angle you were viewing it from. But I think you see my point - the view you and others are using to argue it was low doesn't show the point of first contact, it doesn't show the part of the glove that actually hits first. You have no depth perception on that view to see the area that the punch impacted. That can be very clearly seen from the other angle and the impact reinforces that it was a legal shot.

So I'm not going to blame the ref for instinctively ruling it low, it was a bang bang call and he gave Usyk the benefit of the doubt. However it's also fair to say that was a "favorable" decision for Usyk, that he was rescued from a KD and possibly a KO, that it was controversial. I'm not going to go as far to claim corruption. It was probably just an honest instinctive decision by the ref, however some are claiming Usyk got preferential treatment. Lord knows other boxers have been accused of that for far less observable situations.

 

Punchers need to be right once and he did with that legal homerun bodyshot. He got robbed in round 5.

 

Whsts to dislike sbout Usyk? He fights everyone, roadwarrior, is a great boxer and is charismatic.
Its weird that people dislike, he hasnt really said anything crazy or ducked anyone or has an ugly style.

That being said, regarding the low blow. It looks low, technically it is a low blow, so whats the debate? Other than a modern Chuck Wepner moment it seems like the ref made the right call and besides that Dubois got schooled and stopped. Last thing we need is another Ruiz moment and Fury weaseling himself into undisputed keeping the belts hostage for ever.

 

The belt was on the naval....

 

Yep, the top line of the belt was on the navel. Half of Dubois' glove was below the bottom line of the belt... so several inches below the navel.

 

I agree and the fight Ward/Kovalev was stopped from those shots, madness.

 

The top of the belt looked higher than the naval in my opinion. The impact landed square on the belt, not below it.

Dominic Ingle, an extremely experienced trainer thought it was a legal blow, plenty of experienced individuals in the industry are saying it was a legal blow. There's plenty of others saying it was an illegal shot.

 

The video is clear and so is your iq score.

Every pair of shorts is different, every fighter wears tnem at different heights, shorts move durimg the fight. Therefore using the beltline as a reference for low blows is dumb.

You continue to keep doing so, the low blow cut off area is below the naval.
Your using a variable as a constant reference and that's what makes you a clown.... Capiche?

 

Of another one for the ages. You are beyond biased, or need to visit an eye doctor.
I don't need to repeat the same thing over and over again. Firstable the ref has a perfect visibility of the situation. Secondable every single try to lie about Usyk trunks and that they were somehow high was already expose, as there is a whole thread with plenty of videos and picture wherre it's clear where his navel is. As well as the clear angle of Dubois punch, where it's land, where it's ends.
You can cry as much as you like, but it's what your going to get.
No one is going to overturn the fight, no one is going to order a rematch, simply cause it was lowblow. There is even a poll with it, and more than double of the people says it was low.
Go learn the rules as well.
Everything below the navel is low.

On top of that i already proved this was Dubois dirty tactics, as he was targeting exactly that low area, and he throw plenty of punches there, and receive 3 warning for it.

Now cry more, and your action speaks loudly who the clown is.

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You know what navel is ? You know that your shorts can't magically move few inches up or down, this ain't regular shorts omfg.
And yeah they can obviously move and hide that area when you bend, but doesn't mean Usyk navel was lower than the upper belt, and the shot was way below the lowest part of the waistline.

And the clear proof for that:

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Yeah ok trunks don't move they don't rise??! everyone shorts are the same. You don't use a variable as a constant reference.

Biased against or for what exactly. Don't be lazy and just throw that out there. What and who am I biased for or against exactly?

End of discussion

 

Shorts gets tie obviously before the bout. They obviously move, but it's at best 1-2cm. up and down during the movement, etc, etc.

Still even if Usyk navel somehow was in the lower part of his waistline, which was not, as we proved that million time already, as i gave clear video where Usyk navel is the exact moment after the punch, it's visible on top of the upper line of his waistline.

But you know i decide to give you 2 pic, one with the initial punch contact, and another with the end of Dubois punch.
And even put a special line for you, from the lowest point of the waistbelt, where there is no chance Usyk Navel was anylower than that.

Can you see that even if somehow Usyk navel is that low, Dubois punch it's still way below that. Like most part of his gloves.

Here it is:
What is your excuse now ?

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https://i.postimg.cc/qBSPBfDW/LowBlow1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/kgdL8Qmc/lowblow2.jpg

 

I dont deal with still pics when discussing a movement.

Besides those pics don't show the navel. As I have said countless times you can't use the waistband as a constant reference if its not a constant. There is no ifs no buts that's why the rule isn't the waistband!!

Is navel is under hsi beltline, therefore it's impossible for either of us to say for certainty where the punch landed. Usyk was also in the bounce which would affect it.

If you are unable to tell if it was a low blow like i fell here the benefit of the doubt should go the the person throwing the punch.

 

Yeah you decide to ignore the 2 videos, which clearly prove my point. You completely ignored both of them.
What is the excuse now ?

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And where the heck you see me use the waistband for god sake i was always use the navel. But even a 12 years old can draw an imaginary line and sum 2+2.

And no it's not impossible, cause his navel is exactly, and i mean exactly on par with the most upper part of the belt, and that is clear.
Even if you don't see the navel, because of an angle or cause Usyk is bented, you can see the rest of his body, and can draw a conclusion where exactly his navel is.

And this picture specifically you can see Usyk bandage and his short moved/shaked from Dubois punch.
https://postimg.cc/w70WYs3y
That punch is super close exactly to Usyk balls, not the bladder, the balls.

Clear lowblow by every single rule in the book. You can try to spin it as much as you like, in worst case scenario at least 75% of Dubois gloves is way below where it's allowed. In reality it's 90%.

 

Show me a video of his navel above the beltline when the punch lands then your argument holds water. In the first video u can clearly see no navel above the waistline. Usyk also shapes his body into the punch in anticipation. Like I said there is no navel visible when the punch lands therfore it's under the beltline somewhere and when that's the case a punch on the beltline is legal as you can't say for certain it's a low shot, you have to give the puncher the benefit of the doubt here.

There is no certainty here as much as you try and peddle it.