Usyk Beltline & Low Blow Controversy/Dubois Was Robbed! Dump Thread.

No it's not legal. There is a thing called imaginary line. You may not see the navel in exactly every frame, but the ref knows exactly where it is, based on his visibility in the ring, something we cannot see all the time + he see the rest of Usyk body and have a very good idea where his navel is.

Also the beltline is thick as hell. It's like 10x the size of the navel.
His navel was always exactly on the upper part of the wasteline black bar. It's on par with it. Sometimes you will see it above, sometime it will be covered, but it's exactly on par with the black bar.
And that is the upper line of the wasteline. So anything below that line is lowblow.

Also check the rules. If the ref doesn't specifically instruct that the hit on the wasteline is good, it's mean that he checked the shorts in the dressing room and decide they are not high, so NO a punch to the wasteline is no good.

You can try to make your own rules but the ref was infront of the situation and didn't have any hesitation and he clearly knows the rule. He call it lowblow straight away. He also warned Dubois where to hit after that.
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And you can also see it from this angle, this is just right before the shot. Usyk navel is very small, but it's visible here from certain height.
What you going to come now ?

 

So will you admit that you are wrong now ?
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Right before the shot, like 1-2 frame before the shot.

 

What part of show the navel above the beltline when the punch hits don't you understand?!

 

Also check the rules. If the ref doesn't specifically instruct that the hit on the wasteline is good, it's mean that he checked the shorts in the dressing room and decide they are not high, so NO a punch to the wasteline is no good.

Admit it you just made this hit up... Otherwise please quote the rule for this. I know exactly what the rule is and how to govern it. It's actually not the navel, but it is a good reference point.

 

This is 2 seconds before the punch exactly. Im not superman to have 360 camera on all angles all the time.

I just prove my point like 100x time already and you just don't want to admit you were wrong. Im just mocing on.
Usyk navel is clear as day where is on, and ref had perfect vision and he certainty knows the rules and call it a lowblow.

 

I am judging whether the punch was low when it landed not 2 secs defoe it lands. The navel is clearly not above the beltline when the punch lands on any video iv seen. Unless you can clear that up you can't prove nothing.

What am I wrong about exactly. You do realise I haven't said the shot wasnt low you idiot. You just keep pressing your agenda and getting nowhere. I have said many times that the punch in inconclusive and in such times when it's so marginal you give the puncher the benefit of the doubt.

Most refs in most sports know the rules but make mistakes all the time. Again that proves nothing.

 

Genuine question, as I know you're an honest sort and open to genuine questions... Does that photo not look a little bit edited, to you?

There's a bit of a strange kink on the beltline that doesn't look particularly natural, almost as if it's been edited to make it look like the shorts and punch are higher on Usyks torso?

If not that, then could it be that the photo is from after the impact and the upwards motion of the punch has lifted the shorts at the front?

 

I'm giving you this pic, cause you were arguing where Usyk navel is dude. You called me a clown, then i disprove every single argument you could have both with videos and with clear images. But you just ignore it all.

You can still live in delusion as much as you like the reality is this:

The referee was right there and immediately says it was lowblow. No hesitation, no second thought, nothing.

Clear pictures and videos where Usyk navel is right before the shot. The shot is extremely low. Way below the navel.

Also if the ref was decided that Usyk waistline was high, he would have said it before the match started and instruct them that hitting on the belt is okay, cause the trunks are high.
We see nothing of that, so it wasn't okay to hit on the beltline.

Also Peter Fury, who clearly have no agenda:
"Trunks below naval , any punch on the waist band, never mind low on the band is not the stomach, it’s a groin shot. Hughie got same against Samual peters, excruciating pain. So it’s low. Soon as shot landed ref called it as it landed. He’s the 3rd man in there. It is what it is." Peter Fury

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What you going to say now exactly buddy?
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Is this enough evidence that the punch is beyond a shadow of a doubt a lowblow and where Usyk belly button is ?
Or you going to start crying and call me clown/idiot/etc again.

You understand that doesn't help your case, just show that you are beyond biased, and have no argument.

 

You need to move the belt line up. below the belt refers to all the area of the body that lies below the line of the opponent's navel.

That twitter post is wrong. The line is where the belt starts , which is below the navel. Clear low blow

 

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Bellybutton is above the shorts. just to back up what you said.

 

You puke.

 

This is not my picture, neither my comments. I posted them from Twitter.
And yeah i know the rule. I posted the pic cause the navel of Usyk is seen on it. And the other one show the impact.
The quote text is from Peter Fury. Fury uncle.

 

No, the view I am referring to shows from the right side of Dubois. So you can see the punch the entire way through. From that vantage point, the shot looks low.
The shot I wrongly called photshopped is from the left of Dubois.

 

Dave Allen said on his Instagram story he believes it was illegal after seeing all the angles as well.

 

There enough debate over it to make a case either way.

Unfortunately the ref is working in real time with no replay available to him.

Which means like a lot of sports the ref can only make a decision on what he sees.

That should be the end of it.

It's no different to 3 judges all scoring a fight differently and having controversial decisions. You don't go back and have a rematch because you don't agree with a scorecard.