Usyk Beltline & Low Blow Controversy/Dubois Was Robbed! Dump Thread.

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Was it legal

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  1. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Na that's not game over at all just cos they made a decision doesn't mean it's correct it just means that their opinion. There is nothing wrong with an opinion on things that can't be factual. That statement basically says that they agree cos the ref said so.... You are aware that's what it says?

    What country are you from, can we see your post history to ensure there is no bias like you claim others have?
     
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  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    The INITIAL point of contact was a low blow, it hit his pubic zone, the cup moved up and shook his privates to the max. The shorts moved up afterwards, the gloves final trajectory was at the belt line, but it is the initial blow which counts, which was a low blow. The punch was going up, the very first impact the glove had was at the pubic area, so thus low blow. Everything else is irrelevant. The glove would eventually move up higher at the belt line, but that was after it hit the pubic region and the cup.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk's belly button was positioned right at the very top of his waistband and you can clearly see this in the seconds before the punch lands by the distance between the top of his waistband and his pectoral muscles and you can even actually see his belly button and exactly where it is in relation to his waistband (right at the freaking top) numerous times from the start of the round to that point too.

    Usyk's belly button at the start of round 5

    https://ibb.co/S3dfQCP

    A few seconds before the low blow. Belly button clearly right at the top of his waistband

    https://ibb.co/5hc2ghJ

    https://ibb.co/9tynMXz

    But if you want to believe it wasn't when it unquestionably was and that it was halfway down his waistband which would be a lie the vast majority of the glove still landed below that area and the knuckles are at the bottom of the glove and a large portion of it landed below the waistband so therefore it's still below the naval and therefore low

    But if you want to really believe that his naval was right at the bottom of his waistband which is just comical a large enough portion of the glove still landed below the bottom of the waistband for it to be deemed low and it was an absolutely massive shot delivered by a much bigger savage punching man with full extension on it so even if only a percentage of it strayed low below the bottom of his waistband and his naval was right at the bottom of the waistband which it wasn't (and if it was the top of the waistband would've been right up by his tits) it still would've hurt like hell
     
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  6. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    There is no argument that Dubois was robbed because the shot WAS clearly below the naval.. grazing upwards from almost the ball sack area.. that is fact.. & technically a low blow & up to the discretion of the ref as to how to deal with it.. some are lenient, some aren't.. & nobody knows if Usyk would have got up had a count started.. no one knows if Dubois would have jumped on him, because hes quite an odd character & doesn't seem to have great ring IQ or much dog in him.. there are too many what ifs so nobody could say flat out the guy was robbed especially considering the fight was essentially a one-sided beat down and the guy many are saying was robbed basically quit in the end.. dubois was actually lucky the ref was green lighting a lot of his low blows in fact.. he should have had more disciplinary action taken against him and if I remember correctly there were a couple good body shots landed after the fifth round by Dubois that usyk took well which suggests to me that the shot in question was indeed an eye waterer that rattled his Ukrainian eggs.
     
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  7. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I looked at the videos of the low blows 200 times now today, and came to the conclusion that it was indeed a low blow. The majority of the knuckles were way below the belly button, below the belt line. The thumb of the glove was mostly on the beltline. Usyks bellybutton was at the top of the belt line, so Usyks groin area was mostly impacted including his protector.
     
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  8. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As has been established the navel is not the cut off point for a low blow. The top of the hip is
     
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  10. Potato80

    Potato80 A potato Full Member

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    It's not about the belly button you complete and utter morons, the so-called 'belt line' is from top of hip to top of hip

    The majority of his glove was ABOVE that line; it was a legal shot; and DDD should be heavyweight champion of the world

    Tick tock, Usyk....

    Jack Reiss tells it all, here....

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