Usyk Better Than Holyfield? That is Insane

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  1. bowerboy

    bowerboy Active Member Full Member

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    I was watching Usyks fights again today...to say he is a better cruiserweight than Holyfield is utter madness...people need to get a grip.

    Holyfield would of destroyed Usyk...and the style is just so much more exciting and pleasing to watch.

    Please people...come back to reality.....David Haye probably beats Usyk at Cruiser too.
     
  2. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A bit overrated at the moment.
     
  3. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land booted Full Member

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    the jury is still out on usyk

    thats why i have usyk on my top most hyped fighters today

    but we will see how good he really is at heavyweight

    i know his accomplishments and the journeys he took to fighting others in their own backyards . Very impressive winning those belts in that kind of way road warrior

    keep in mind when i say usyk is hyped that means exactly what it means he is hyped by his fans until he does what hes been labelled to do

    if usyk beats the heavyweights like his fans claim he will then.
    he was exactly as branded

    however if he does not do that and fails to do so he has been overated

    underated or overated only usyk can decide and prove the critics wrong or right




    note : do not get butthurt over what i said usyk fanboys. im saying usyk is hyped for now can he beat those heavyweights ? maybe he can maybe he cant. im not doubting usyk im simply saying the jury is still out on him. Dont get butthurt over this posts fanboy
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk would not have been beaten by Carl Thompson at cruiser the way Haye was.
     
  5. JackSilver

    JackSilver Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a terrible example.

    The Haye that won and defended the crusierweight title wouldn't have been beaten by Thompson the way the green inexperienced Haye was either.
     
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  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Yeah he is.
    First of, cruiset Holyfiield isn't comparable to heavyweight Captain America serum Holyfield. 2nd, what Usyk did at cruiser was obviously much more impressive.
    You have to cut Holyfield's career off at Cruiser and then compare that to what Usyk did.

    I get people feel threatened by a non American making history, but it's just the way it is.
     
  7. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 Active Member Full Member

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    Holyfield 4 times (almost 5) HWs champion of the world. The path Usyk has before is long and hard...
     
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  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    It's about CRUISERWEIGHT... Even if he had been a million times Heavyweight and Light Heavyweight and Middleweight champion, all by KO it still doesn't count for CRUISERWEIGHT!
     
  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing booted Full Member

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    way to early to call.

    but close certainly.
     
  10. Reg

    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The reality is that Usyk has defeated multiple proven top tier fighters all in their own backyards and unified a division. A feat comparable to Holyfield and one that makes any Haye comparisons laughable.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Holyfield was a better heavyweight than cruiser, but I agree.
     
  12. Reg

    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What does Usyks accomplishments at HW have to do with his legacy at cruiserweight? Usyks CW legacy is set in stone. What he does at HW has no more impact on his accomplishments at CW than Holyfields does after gaining 20 lbs of lean muscle and jumping up a division.
     
  13. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land booted Full Member

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    true i misread it my bad
     
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  14. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk resume at CW is far more impressive than Hollyfields. Usyk beat half a dozen more impreesive CWs than Hollyfield best win at that weight in Qwai.

    That said, weather Usyk will be as good a of HW that Hollyfield was is a totally different story.
     
  15. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can only be the best of your time and fight the best opponents available. Both Holyfield and Usyk have done that during their cruiserweight careers. I also believe that Holyfield would have beaten everyone that Usyk has fought and Usyk would have done the same with all Holyfields cruiserweight opponents. So imo who was better is decided by your own personal preference of the two fighters. Maybe you prefer Holyfields versatile all action style or maybe the way Usyk controls and is able to dictate the manner of each fight?
     
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