Usyk boxes circles around Wilder. Gassiev tears his head off.

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both these guys defeat Wilder convincingly. Usyk has too much mobility and skill. Wilder just cant hit the man.

    But I'd rather see Gassiev Wilder. Because unlike Usyk, Gassiev will just blow him up.
     
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  2. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you know Gassiev sparred wilder and he said he was impressed and that Wilder hits harder than Wlad in his opinion.
     
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  3. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Wilder is the hardest worker I've been in with. [He's the hardest puncher], in addition he has dangerous angles to his attacks that are difficult to understand. If Klitschko has a classic technique, then Wilder is very unusual and his attacks are very difficult to defend against. If you look from the outside, the movements seem clumsy, but in the ring they work in a very efficient manner."
    -Gassiev on sparring Wilder.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    So what? His skill is elementary. It's easy to dissect a guy like that.
     
  5. SnatchBox

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    Replace Cage with Wilder
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gassiev isn’t very skilled. He is an excellent puncher and he is powerful. I think wilder can use his jab to great effect against someone like him.
     
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  7. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    First off, Gassiev is better than Usyk. Usyk is usually just bigger than than his opponents. Second, Wilder knocks Usyk tf out. I’m not impressed with his clunky man boxing. He gets hit and he’s a volume puncher. People act like this guys’ ring IQ is off the charts.
     
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  8. Badbot

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    You might want to rephrase that part.
    But Usyks style work into Wilders hands. Wilder has become exceptionally good at controlling the distance and working off of it.
    All those though fights have made him a better boxer.
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Before anybody calls me biased let me clarify. I used to be a HUGE Wilder supporter. I even made a thread stating Wilder might be the best HW because hes not old or fat.

    But as time went on I lost patience. He has fought nothing, but bums and old men.

    I just simply ran out of patience. The bum tour was too long and overextended.
     
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  10. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s okay if you think other fighters beat him, as long as you can give your reasons why and not just say because he windmills then I just take it like a normal prediction.
     
  11. jmashyaka

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    You think Usyk is less skilled than Gassiev? I beg to differ. I think Wilder does better with Usyk than he does Gassiev but I think Usyk beats Gassiev personally.
     
  12. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's a combination of him pretty much being on a 40 fight bum tour. And he looks relatively unskilled.
     
  13. The Akbar One

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    Wilder KO's Usyk. Usyk is too hittable. Breidis showed us that straight punches penetrate Usyk's guard fairly frequently.
     
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  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe, but I think Usyk would fight more cautious against Wilder. And it's not like Wilders defense is air tight.

    Part of the reason I say Usyk beats Wilder is Wilder is not a big HW. He was already looking sluggish at 228 pounds.

    For a light hitter like Usyk he may want to stay away from the big HWs like a Joshua or Klitschko.
     
  15. jmashyaka

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    Stiverne when he beat him wasn’t a bum and Ortiz is a top 3 HW if Tyson isn’t in the picture. So whilst his opposition wasn’t great for 35 odd fights he is now where he should be fighting good names.

    The thing people forget is HW boxing in 2018 is not about skill, it’s mainly about size, power and speed, if you have skill that’s an added bonus but it’s no coincidence that AJ 6’7, Wilder 6’7 and Fury at 6’9 are the top men in the division.
     
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