Usyk (Bredis fight) vs Beterbiev (Gvosdyk) fight at cruiserweight

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is vulnerable to body shots

    Not saying Beterbiev would win but that's the biggest target for him now that Usyk is bigger, older and slower than he was at CW and as an amateur.
     
    UniversalPart, Sep 3, 2024
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  2. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Usyk demolishes Artur at cruiserweigjt. KO or complete shutout. It’s not even worth considering. Prime Usyk beats any cruiser let alone a LH moving up. I’m a huge Beterbiev fan and would find it hard to watch this fight because it would be so one sided.
     
    Jackman65, Sep 3, 2024
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  3. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Except the version of Beterbiev that beat the version of Usyk.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Amateur fight from 2007. Amateur doesn't count.
     
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  5. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not like they were novices they were both veterans going into that fight and Beterbiev dropped him as well so yes it does count.
     
    iceferg, Sep 6, 2024
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  6. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    I’m not sure if Beterbiev beats Bivol or Briedis let alone Usyk.
     
    Kell Macabe, Sep 6, 2024
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  7. Hurrikeen

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    This is the only response needed.

    /thread
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No...amateur doesn't count. Significantly different sport.
     
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  9. zeratul

    zeratul Active Member Full Member

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    No, they weren't veterans, especially Usyk. He lost to Shawn Porter just several months ago before that. It looks like Usyk only started competing in 2005, so he wasn't a "veteran" however you want to look at this.
     
    zeratul, Sep 7, 2024
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  10. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dropped him with a body shot at Usyk's natural weight it counts.
     
    iceferg, Sep 7, 2024
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  11. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Obviously get all of your info from boxrec just because they're the earliest fights you can find listed on there when he was already fighting world class opponents.
     
    iceferg, Sep 7, 2024
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  12. zeratul

    zeratul Active Member Full Member

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    Well, I'm not finding any sources that would give any information about him competing in tournaments before 2005. If you have other information, then please send over a link so I can get acquainted with this.

    Just to remind, Usyk started boxing only when he was 15
     
    zeratul, Sep 7, 2024
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  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was 15 in 2002 so straight away proved your foolishness. Every chance he was boxing from a younger age than that as well.
     
    iceferg, Sep 7, 2024
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  14. zeratul

    zeratul Active Member Full Member

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    Learn to read, you ****** - I said that he started boxing when he was 15, not competing. You failed to present any proof of him competing in serious tournaments before 2005. So, there's nothing indicating that he was a "veteran". Take an L, you idiot.
     
    zeratul, Sep 7, 2024
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk took up boxing aged 15 he didn't start competing at 15

    Beterbiev is 2 years older than Usyk and he took up boxing aged 10-11

    So he took up boxing in 1996-1997

    Usyk took it up in 2002

    They first fought in 2007

    And again in 2011 and 2012

    Beterbiev won the first fight 12-10

    Usyk won the second and third by the same score 17-13

    All their fights were close and super competitive

    The 220lb HW version of Usyk is too big for Beterbiev

    I'd favour the CW one to beat him too but the CW Usyk fought numerous different styles and his best tactic would be to use his speed and movement and box Beterbiev. Usyk at his most nimble, agile and fleet of hand and foot best would be too fast and mobile for Beterbiev but Beterbiev is a handful for anyone and no one is beating him easily.
     
    Serge, Sep 7, 2024
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