Usyk could destroy AJ

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  1. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    I suppose he could, but it is unlikely. Based on what I've seen Usyk is grossly overrated. He didn't do that well against Chisora, I don't give him much chance against Joshua.
     
  2. BoxerToxer

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    Usyk can't defeat Anthony Joshua, in my opinion. Joshua is stronger than him. He will probably be knocked out.
     
  3. BoxerToxer

    BoxerToxer Member banned Full Member

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    Vitali looked great against Chisora, at the age of 40.
     
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  4. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You guys forgot one MAJOR thing, AJ don't have experience fighting guys like Usyk, but Usyk was fighting guys like AJ all his amateur career.
     
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  5. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Doubt he would destroy Joshua. Beat him yes he can with a solid game plan.
     
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  6. MetalLicker

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    I think the size difference will be too much for Usyk. Before he Usyk moved up, there was About a 50 lb difference between the 2 guys and the skill gap is not that big. There is however a huge power difference.

    I believe AJ’s size and power will be too much for Usyk’s skills to overcome.
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk ain`t going to beat anyone. He and his team are delusional. He is 34 and a half, with just 2 matches at HW, which first of them was garbage level, and Chisora is a gatekeeper, who is also very far from what boxer Joshua is, and even he gave Usyk a tough match.
    Last time i see a prime Usyk was against Gassiev 3 years ago. From that point on he is getting worst and worst.
    He 500% declined in terms of physically from that point on, and he is a shell of his former self.
    Anyone who not see this obviously have zero eye for boxing and to see when fighter is sliding.
    Prime Usyk may have chance against Joshua if he was to switch early on, but the guy switch at his 31, and for a 3 years time he was been hugely inactive, struggle to gain a functional muscle mass, and is declining every single day, and for 3 years at the HW, he got exactly 2 matches, which is an absolutely disaster.
    This was the worst move in his career. He would have more money staying at CW and destroy everyone, and retired unbeaten.
    Garbage decision by Usyk.

    Prime Usyk was super fast on his feet, was creating insane angles, his hands were insanely fast, his reflexes was second to noone, and most importantly his pressure and punch output was insane. He was pressing on his opponents and they couldn`t keep on his pace, and he demolishes them.
    Against Chisora he didn`t have the energy to do so, cause he is obviously declined, and he doesn`t have the stamina any longer.
    Just look what Usyk did to Hunter in the last few rounds, and how insane his pace was in the closing rounds, and compare it to Chisora fight for example.

    Its pain me to see Usyk like that, but its all his and his team fault.
    This fight is going to be similar to Povetkin one. Usyk will be competitive until a moment, his speed and cardio later one will took a hit, just like it happen with Povetkin, he will be slower and will get slayed by Joshua.
     
  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is very smart. If he had even some from top3 puny CW lads instead of Witherspoon or Chisora in the ring, he already had lost his 0.

    Nope.
    Vs Gassiev he was able to deal mainly cos experience levels there were damn too different and Usyk still then had speed and agility advantage + amateur real top class suprestar experience ( his experience even in ams was better than 90% pro boxers does have in ams and pros togehter taken ).
    Vs Briedis he had dealt barely despite all these biased comments and only mainly cos this looks that decided to fool Usyk and outbox him not to go for KO stoppage or maul him and yeah, he had hit Usyk's elbow instead of body and LOL, why Gassiev vs Usyk had been a bit delayed there after this fight?

    Hard hitting boxers Usyk had faced: I think Gassiev and Briedis, Bellew does hit ( if are in good shape ) considerably harder than Usyk, this didn't help always there, the same Haye does hit harder than Bellew, this too did not had helped him.

    So yeah, very smart choice to have in the ring Chisora and Witherspoon instead of even CW dudes like Makabu, Dorticos, old Briedis ( he really looks aging lad despite he is true world class operator by his experience ) : these are far more mobile than Chisora and there we can talk till death: it is HW etc talks.
    Chisora does have worse gas tank than Dorticos and while he does hit as hard as is his weight he does also moves like his weight is.
    While even the same Dorticos for me looks that moves like 200 lber and hits like ~220 lber and this is big benefit, especially if boxer does have good gas tank and good chin.
    Yeah, he is limited but polished and damn durable. He even isn't chinny, Gassiev landed on him cool body blow and at least 2 liver punches until he slowed down, and yeah, he does hit far harder than Usyk there. Then he managed to land on him even more and with this almost deliverd him out of the ring. Still yeah, beated up Dorticos did not looked concussed so seriously like Whyte after old over the hill Povetkin.

    Might Usyk now beat WBSS1 era CW boxers? I think no and even if they are in good shape some current CW top boxers he will not beat.

    Move to HW, where he still is damn agile if compare with a lot of HW boxers already had gave him 2 wins in fights.

    If he instead of Witherspoon had in the ring Dorticos, Briedis in normal or God help if in good shape or Makabu, he already had loss on his pro record.
    Till Chisora he looks that gained more close to normal shape.
    Yeah, and Chisora most likely had KO loss vs Dorticos or old Briedis from 2020 th autumn version if they were in the ring vs him instead of Usyk.
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bro you are delusional as well. Saying someone of top 3 would have already taken his 0 is just a joke statement. How can i take you seriously with that? He already beat them all pretty convincingly. Nobody could have beaten Usyk at CW.
    And while Briedis did well, the scorecards were garbage. Usyk won that fight way wider. And he was not in trouble even at slightest.
    Usyk was just the better man. And yeah get your glasses off, most of Briedis shots were hitting thin air and or was blocked by Usyk.
    The fight was in Riga, and claiming something is just delusional.
    Usyk was class above at CW, not because of just experience, but cause he was just level above in terms of skills. No one even touches him when he was prime.
    And Dorticos is going to be a punching bag for Usyk, so don`t make me laugh with your statement. Usyk beat them all with ease.

    And yeah until this time exactly, he could have between 6-8 matches, instead of just the 2 at HW. And he would have been unified CW champions, instead of no one at HW. Of course he would have made more money for this 3 wasted year with all the injuries and struggle caused by trying to gain weight for HW and due the late transition in his 30s to more strength focused training and so.
    Everyone who is not biased and not a hater could clearly see Usyk made a huge mistake moving to HW, and his move didn`t goes as it was planned.
    You are trying to downplay Usyk from quite some time, but nobody in the history beat prime Usyk at CW. No one.
     
  10. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do not need that some boxing fan in forum respcet me or my opinions.
    I do not post for likes, Sir and you are joke there not I.

    I do know how shitty is por boxing, actually I do not care that much about it's dumb fans and business.
    Usyk was more marketable and still there..

    This night he was, yeah, a bit.
    Glasses off: Ukraine is not place where to get $ from tickets in hall, therefore, sorry, Usyk had fought in " backyards " while being " God ".

    Nope, this does not matters because: now Briedis and Gassiev are guilty cos with Usyk they could not get enough good sales in Kiev?

    Usyk is shitty tickets seller, better he should learn how to make good live gates in Kiev, btw not so popular he is even in Ukraine.;)

    You do know that reality is : A. they had not used local judges or referee and actually I think this is bad if big event is paid partially from tickets money from small countries.
    For tickets should pay people from proper countries and these shows should be done in big countries.
    Also in order not to cry about beating in backyards.

    Usyk fought in backyards cos wiht his shitty sales in Kiev might had happened.
    Moscow, Riga.

    Now bragging about how BAD tickets seller Usyk is.

    Btw, I really hope that he will get normal beatup from A.J. :D

    Ohh, yeah, like Tabiti who had won until Dorticos had steam rolled him out.

    Pro boxing isn't point fighting only there and Usyk soon will learn this.


    Of course Usyk is king, yeah.

    So good boxer he is, yeah.

    King of division etc this guy is.


    He even if compare with Glowacki is pillow fisted.:D
     
  11. IHaveAscreenName804

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    Lol another casual boxing fan. Usyk is a 6'3 200 plus pound guy. Holyfield was 6'1 205 and constantly beat guys who weighed 40 plus pounds more than he did. You know why? Because once you are 200 pounds adding more weight to your body won't help you.

    I already stated this and I will state this again. Steve Cunnigham is 6'2/6'3 and weighed 180/190 pounds naturally. He wasn't a big puncher for cruiser weight standards. He was also on a downward slide in his career when he fought Tyson Fury. Not only did he out box Tyson Fury he almost knocked out Tyson Fury with one punch.

    Usyk has proved little at heavyweight but he is still better than Cunnigham. So if Cunnigham could do what he did against Fury then Usyk could do the same thing against Anthony Joshua.
     
  12. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Glowacki too was and if age doesn't matters, despite these biased fans and comments, he nicely had floored Cunningham too.

    Bellew does beat more hard than Usyk and still he had been finished by the same pillow fisted Usyk.

    Usyk still is overvalued regards his power and if he will finish A.J then A.J packs IRL glass body by LHW not alone CW standarts.
     
  13. JediPimp007

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    It's entirely possible Usyk beats or even dominates Joshua. It does however seem unlikely.

    Usyk was being comfortably out boxed by Bellew for long periods, a guy who was old and past it. He then looked mediocre against Witherspoon and failed to really impress against Chisora. Maybe he has another level, but if Joshua lands at the same connect rate as Bellew and Chisora I can't see it ending well for him.
     
  14. Stiches Yarn

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    And Tyson Fury, and David Haye!
     
  15. snake33

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    AJ will combo, hug, lean and hurt Usyk just enough for the ref to wave his hands over his head.
    KO, Decision, whatever, this is not a fight Usyk can win. He was great at Cruiser but wildly
    over rated at heavy.
     
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