Usyk gets a time machine, does he clear the top level of every era and go undefeated

Because Ruiz beat AJ once and Markus hates AJ.

 

a prime usyk loses to no heavyweight in past history in my opinion. only chance would be wlad tyson (80s) and a prime ali.

 

Based on just 5 HW opponents??

 

Usyk does well and would be a top fighter and would be a favorite against most fighters but I don't think any HW would be undefeated if they fought that list. Just how the sport works.

 

Norton got knocked out by Jose Luis Garcia who was like 188 lb. Norton got sparked out by fighters who put any type of pressure on him, like Earnie Shavers and Gerry Cooney. Cooney ironed him out viciously in under a minute just by cornering Norton and throwing bombs.

Frazier would be too slow and have a height deficit of 4-10 inches on everyone today (not to mention a weight deficit too). Mike Tyson was around the same size as Frazier, but he was waaay more explosive with better punch combinations.

Smaller heavyweights gotta have speed to compete, something which Frazier lacked.

 

Joe Frazier wasn't slow, he had pretty quick hands and good head movement.

 

Okay hand speed, but slow feet. In all of his fights he was lumbering forward, bobbing and weaving with mostly static legs.

 

And yet he cornered and beat Muhammad Ali, so he must've been doing something right.

Ah, I was wondering why he singled out Ruiz out of my multi paragraph post zeroing in on that. Dude can be weird sometimes.

 

Usyk will lose to a prime Ali. He'd be competitive against everyone else but certainly loses a couple times along the way.

 

Jurgen Blin was able to do that too, but he lacked Frazier's power. Ali's defensive skills weren't that good, especially in the 70's. Ali relied on reflexes to evade punches, he didn't really develop a guard or any inside game.

Look at the Foreman fight where he took a bad beating. He won that fight, yes... but at the cost of absorbing some brutal shots from a power puncher.

 

Ali had some of the best reflexes of all time. He was close to his prime when Frazier beat him, and he could still use his legs and superb head movement for several rounds.

The Foreman fight has nothing to do with Frazier or his hand speed. You're all over the place.

 

Slight underdog against: 60's Ali, 80's Tyson

50/50 versus: Lewis, Holmes, Fraizer, Holyfield, Wlad(real torn on this one)

Slight favourite over: 70's Ali, Vitali, Liston, Norton, Foreman

Clear favourite over the rest.

 

The guy’s a genius.

But he’s only fought 5 professional HW’s in the modern era.

As great as he is, it isn’t enough for anyone to believe that he’d have beaten every great HW in history.