Usyk has Hrgovic clause in Fury May. 18 contract.

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You mean twice already, as he already pulled out of the December 23th. date. This was the original date on a already signed fight. You forget that the belly threaten to SUE Usyk just few days before the Ngannou fight if they don't fight on December 23th.

    It's insanely unfair and Usyk team should have never agree this clause to be for both sides, as one side already pulled out twice.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Nqh, bro there is zero chance in hell for Fury to fight AJ.
    I don't believe he will ever fight AJ.

    Usyk is the easier fight for Fury, style wise.
    Fury has nothing on AJ, and he won't get a corrupt judges and referee to help him, against AJ, as AJ even without titles is the bigger star, and has a strong back.
    Zero chance of Hearn allow any cheating towards AJ.

    Also AJ hits miles harder than Usyk or actually anyone Fury has ever fought. AJ also has multiple weapon and is a great combination puncher. He is also bigger and stronger than Fury, and this will be shown very soon in the Ngannou fight.

    I think Fury won't duck the May date this time, as his reputation is already shattered, and one more pulls out, it's over for him.

    And Usyk and his team has to be a bunch of imbecile if they ever want to fight him ever again.
     
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  3. Serge

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    Yes, it's easy to lose count of how many times The Gypsy Chicken has bolted back into the coup given how frequently he has done so when he's caught scent of Usyk on the prowl

    We already know Belly has been on the right side of a controversial decision over in Saudi in order to enable a bigger fight to take place and we also know that His Excellency and the powers that be desperately want to see Belly vs AJ as opposed to Usyk vs AJ III which shouldn't even be a thing after Usyk paddled AJ's ass twice.
     
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  4. OldSchoolBoxing

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    @lordlosh with all due respect, I will have to beg to differ with you on that one. AJ has been exposed many times. I didn't like him even against Helenius.

    I think Fury makes quick work of AJ. While Usyk is both of those two's nemesis.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I have no problem with you have a different opinion, this is perfectly fine. Everyone see the game differently. Not going to argue, as this ain't about AJ thread, but style wise for me AJ is a nightmare for Fury, and AJ will beat him with ease. I have always says and believe that.

    Ngannou fight going to be the definite proof of who is right or wrong on that one.
     
  6. lordlosh

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    It's not just that, but suddenly the most corrupt man in Boxing, aka WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman who is on Fury team payroll, suddenly start crying for VAR for that specific fight. You see they going to test a new system on supposedly the biggest fight of them all ???
    And this is combined with Fury pulling out of the fight.

    They are setting to rob Usyk out, and they will allow Fury to do as what he wants in the ring, aka all the illegal moves, and Usyk would be DQ just for hitting Fury clean.
    Can you imagine this b.c.?
    How to take boxing seriously, tell me ?

    I have no doubts who win that fight if it's fair, Usyk going to school him, but they are setting everything against him, absolutely everything.
     
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  7. kriszhao

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    While I mostly agree with what you wrote he did fight one person with more power than AJ in both hands and that was Wladamir Klitschko too bad he was so old and fury was such a coward and ducked the rematch.
     
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  8. Serge

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    Belly vs AJ is clearly the fight His Excellency and the powers that be want though

    I'm not sure about that. Usyk has already whooped AJ's ass x 2 and even though AJ hits a lot harder than Usyk and poses a bigger threat of knocking him out if Belly whips himself into the kind of shape he is now stylistically he poses a lot of problems for AJ

    Nah, The Dosser is a massive puncher. Granted, AJ is much better for the reasons you listed though

    But Wlad hits harder and was much better than both

    Let's keep our fingers crossed
     
  9. lordlosh

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    Yeah big difference, AJ is actually younger than Fury, and is in his prime, and Fury can't age out. Klitschko was 39.7, as you point out, so big difference.
    AJ is also completely opposite to Klitschko, as he is a combination puncher, and Fury tricks won't work on him. AJ is faster as well, compare to old Klitschko.

    And i would get some people claim that Wilder for 1 punch power may hit harder than AJ, but we still don't know for sure, as Wilder level of opposition is just next level. And there is also different kind of power, you know?

    Anyway i just don't think Fury will fancy himself in that fight. He will just talk, talk, talk and then just duck the fight.
     
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  10. lordlosh

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    AJ has always have problems with small guys like Usyk, and actually better with bigger guys, he was always like that. And there is a big difference. Usyk was 35 in AJ 1, and was a lot closer to his prime. Just for Fury, Usyk already wasted 3 camps, and this will be his 4th.

    He has aged a lot. For the first time i have seen Usyk with gray/white hairs in his recent interview.

    As far as Klitschko goes, he was 39,7 years old, and Fury was in his absolutely prime. Not a comparison at all. Switch their age and see what would happen to Fury.
    AJ is in his prime, and it's younger than Fury. AJ is also a combination puncher, and is a great close and mid range fighter. Klitschko was not good close range fighter. Also Fury can't clinch on AJ. He can't rest on him, and his footwork was always overrated. His get out of jail card is call clinch and holding. Nothing in comparison to how Usyk beats AJ, aka constantly moving and outworking him.

    And Fury from Ngannou fight was the same Fury who always was, same Fury from the Chisora and Whyte fights. He just wasn't allowed to rest in the clinches and to bully his opponent, and we saw how good he really is.

    Ngannou dropped that fraud twice. The second one wasn't called, but was a clean KD as hell. AJ is going to murder him.

    No need to talk of that, Ngannou - AJ fight will give us plenty of answers.
     
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  11. lordlosh

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    Ah, and one last thing. As i know you don't like AJ much.
    AJ didn't need to pull out of Usyk fight TWICE already, since the fight was signed. He and his promoter didn't also start crying like a babies for referee and judges help before the fight, which is exactly what Warren and Fury is doing now.
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    They are trying to put a narrative, and Fury is literally admitting he will cheat, by telling Usyk to not cry to the referee. Just a few day after Warren saying how Usyk is crying to the referee for the body shots, and that he complains a lot on the ref.
    If you don't see a obvious pattern here and what they are trying to do, then i don't know. And there is Mauricio who is on a payrol pushing for changes, right before the fight.

    How did AJ fought both fights? Mainly cleanly. Outside from few rough stuffs, there was nothing major. No clinching, no holding, no elbows, no dirty tricks.
    AJ is a true fighting man, Fury is a coward.
     
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  12. Wig

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    Once again, the real winner here is PAPA ZHANGO, the giant communist HELLRAISER.
     
  13. kriszhao

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    Precisely.
     
  14. Serge

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    AJ has never fought anyone as skilled, fast and elusive as Usyk. Pretty much all these big slow behemoths will struggle when facing someone with Usyk's attributes. Hence why I and numerous others were telling people for years, long before Usyk beat AJ, that Usyk can beat these giants

    Yes, I've also been telling people for a long time that Usyk is past his prime and has been slowing down for ages. The contrast from the old Usyk and the one of recent years is stark. He was significantly faster, more fluid, accurate, and his reflexes and reaction times much sharper.

    Yes you can argue the version of Wlad who Belly fought was obviously well past his prime and not near as good as the prime version but not that AJ hit harder, let alone way harder. Wlad has always hit harder than AJ. In terms of one punch power Wlad it's not a contest. AJ hits like a truck but Wlad hit like a train. Wlad is one of the most powerful punchers of all time and he possessed lights out one punch KO power in both hands. Prime Wlad KOs Belly and AJ. Slick Belly would last longer due to his elusive style but AJ gets taken out when Wlad wants him out of there

    I'm talking about the shape Belly is in now. He's clearly in way better shape now than he has been for a very long time and if he actually boxes and uses his skills instead of aggressive Kronk Belly he poses AJ a lot of stylistic problems. I'm not saying I'd pick him to beat AJ right now but if he can rediscover his slickness it will cause AJ big problems
     
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  15. Serge

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    I used to like AJ but I just find him incredibly fake and the biblical meltdown after Usyk beat him the second time and the disrespect he displayed to Usyk and Loma was absolutely despicable. That being said, it's not like I feel a strong aversion to him. I hate The Dosser whereas I just dislike AJ. I also hate the fact that he gets as many rolls of the dice to achieve the desired result and his opponents only ever get one by ReMatchroom. Usyk would never have received one rematch, let alone two had he just edged AJ never mind whooped him

    But to AJ's credit he did fight Usyk once albeit he was desperate to avenge his loss in the rematch so he fought him again

    Yes, I fear you are indeed correct. The deck is already stacked heavily against Usyk and Belly and Big Frank are trying to stack it even more. I'm not expecting Usyk to get a fair shake at all and not without good reason either