Usyk has Hrgovic clause in Fury May. 18 contract.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Aw man, I hate when I get Hrgović clauses in my May 18 contract. My sympathies to Usyk.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think this Fury shape will serve him, just as serve Joyce for Zhang 1, and Ruiz after the AJ rematch. In Ruiz case he lost a lot of his durability due to the weight loss. I expect the same for Fury, and he will understand that Usyk hit harder than people give him credit for.
    And yeah Fury shape for what he is shown so far seems to be the best he's ever been.

    But that still won't help him against AJ, and Usyk in a fair fight. The thing with AJ is, he had the promoter and the big name, so they can't rob him on the scorecards, and the referee on the ring won't allow dirty tricks against him.

    WE both know this is not the case for Usyk though.
    For Klitschko i agree, and it's also need to be said that he was not with his late legendary trainer Manny Steward, which also makes a huge difference. He was with a joke of a one - Banks. For me Banks is the equivalent of Malik Scott. :D
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I agree with the rematch clauses, but it's not just Matchroom. Warren is doing the same. Joyce had a rematch clause for all of his fights. Dubois as well. Fury as well. Another thing to hate about Boxing.

    Usyk - AJ rematch was the same as Joyce - Zhang rematch in terms of sense. Both AJ and Joyce lost by a schooling, so rematch was absolutely not needed.
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury won't pull out of the fight, in that i'm sure. He get what he wanted, and he is training the hardest he ever has.
    Also paying 10 millions for compensation for pulling out of the fight .... No way.
     
  5. Serge

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    I hope that's exactly what has happened and that coming in lighter and in such good shape will affect his punch resistance :lol:

    This is true as there is much less chance of that happening to AJ vs Belly than it is with Usyk against Belly

    Yes, Manny was a huge asset to have in your corner and Banks more a Malik Scott :lol:

    I know Mercer is old and well past his best here (ironically the same age as Wlad was against AJ) but that version sparks out Belly and AJ early if he wants to. He was much faster, more fluid, his jab was crazy good, and the power was ridiculous too. He was an absolutely devastating offence force back then. Neither Belly or AJ's chins are withstanding that power and they're not going to be able to avoid it either against that younger, quicker and more fluid version of Wlad.

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  6. Serge

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    ReMatchroom are particularly bad when it comes to rematches, especially for AJ. He gets as many rolls of the dice until the desired outcome is achieved and his opponents only ever get one.

    Usyk is 2-0 against him despite having everything stacked heavily against him and had AJ just eked past him once Usyk never would've received a rematch, let alone two.
     
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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah. And Mercer was and iron chin guy that was never dropped on head shot before, never been stop prior to the fight as well.
    2006-2012 of Klitschko though was absolutely wrecking machine. He had some bad showing, but never shy from a challenge, and an absolutely class.
    And Fury was going to safe the Boxing from Klitschkos ..... Oh, dear.
     
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  8. lordlosh

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    I completely agree, but the problem is not just AJ, but the rematches as a whole. I get the Ruiz rematch, but the Usyk one was a mandatory, and it's not like AJ was undefeated or a long reigning Champion. Yeah he was, but he lost and win it back, and also it was a conclusion that didn't need a rematch one.

    But Joyce - Zhang and Joyce - Parker having a rematch clause is beyond garbage. Just like Whyte - Franklin had a rematch clause, as well as Povetkin - Whyte.
    This is pathetic, and it's one of the reason why Boxing is going down, at least in my eyes.
     
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  9. peter_uk

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    It's fair enough as long as Fury has a reciprocal clause in the unlikely event Usyk pulls out; somehow I doubt it.
     
  10. fencik45

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    He mostly damages the sport.
     
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  11. Serge

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    Yes. As much as I love Manny Steward, I always preferred the pre-Steward aggressive wrecking machine Wlad

    :lol: I know. The irony is comical when you think about it
     
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  12. Serge

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    Yes, there are too many undeserved rematches in general and there's no goddamn way in hell AJ deserves a third crack at Usyk, let alone for beating a 0-1-0 rank novice
     
  13. lordlosh

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    He won't get one in that i'm sure. Usyk and his team ain't stupid. AJ is in his absolutely prime, and Usyk will be a shell very soon.
    Usyk will do the Fury match, and the rematch and he will retire after.
    No way he will fight AJ for a 3rd time.
    Also this fight won't prove a thing, just like shot to s**** Povetkin after 2 COVID and his camp literally being in a hospital in the Whyte rematch.
    Whyte was finish as a player after that loss, and i mean FINISH !!!


    And just want to clear something. As i'm labeled as Usyk and AJ fanboy.

    I was rooting for Klitschko against AJ. I was rooting for Povetkin against AJ, as i was a fan of both Klitschko and Povetkin.
    And i was 50-50 or even more slightly towards Parker in the AJ fight. But Parker lost me as a fan long time ago. And not because of his loses.

    And AJ won me with his desire to improve, and to be fair it's one of the few fighters in the division where i follow closely and see constant improving in his game. And yeah he had some few bad matches, but no one gives him a chance in the Ruiz 2 fight, where he needed to switch up completely, and he did it.

    The reason why i like AJ is because there wasn't any b.c. when it comes to makes the fight. He was there fighting regularly and fighting the top dogs in the division.
    Also there is no illegal cheating in his game. No holding, no constant clinching, no elbows, no constant blatant low blows, not a strategy/tactics that is relying on illegal stuffs and because of corrupt Boxing and his status to get a pass on.
    And while there was few bad shots in here and there, his overall game and style is clean and a good for the eye.
    Now compare that to Fury and Wilder and you get why i don't like the latter two.

    Just a recent comparison is the Wallin fight, and Ngannou will be the next one.
    Fury when he was cut, needed to grab hold constantly, to hold and hit, to tire out Wallin in order to get away with the win.
    AJ used his feet to get in and out and literally punch the fight out of Wallin. He is going to do the same with Ngannou and expose him badly.
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

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    He was certainly more entertaining pre-Steward, but obviously also far less disciplined and far removed from the finished product. But his offensive output and firepower made him a force.
     
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  15. Ivan28

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    Usyk is smart, I'm sure he knows his next opponent will be Hrgovic, not Fury, and he will be preparing for Hrgovic