Usyk has surpassed Mayweather & Pacquiao

Not even close Usyk has only beat one fighter that could be considered a future hall of famer in Breidis and has 0 wins against any fighter that would be considered a great or a top 20 Heavyweight of all time.

Usyk hasn't got the depth to be on par with Mayweather or Pacquiao.

 

No he hasn't lol

 

I'm with you. The point of being a true ATG is that it's impossible to find someone whose accomplishments trump theirs. What Usyk has done is unique, but the same goes for all the others you mentioned and Floyd & Pac too.

 

NO QUESTION! Honestly mayweather’s name doesn’t even deserve to be in the same sentence as Usyk. Usyk did the vast majority of his title wins right in his opponents backyards! And if someone even suggested to mayweather that he’d fight an opponent 6 inches taller and 50lbs bigger to win the undisputed championship of his division…. LOL I could just hear the irate stuttering and cussing now!!

“Oh oh!!! Oh.. S.. S.. See I see what you’re doin!! I s.. s.. see what ya’ll are doing!!! You praying on my downfall by fightin someone twice the size as me!!!!!”

I mean, Usyk is the one that TRULY “Dared to be great”

 

he just beat a trash bag full of buttermilk, that only earns you so much credit.

 

You are just cherry picking stats. Plus, Fury will definitely be a hall of famer. Even AJ has a good shot to make it (there are plenty of heavyweights already in who accomplished less). How many hall of famers did Mayweather fight while they were actually in their prime? How many divisions were Mayweather and Pacquiao undisputed in? How many Olympic gold medals did they win? How many guys did they beat who outweighed them by 20% or more? I can just as easily find stats to elevate Usyk over Mayweather and Pac. In my opinion, all 3 are ATGs and on similar levels.

 

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No. Hell no.

 

I'm not cherrypicking stats at all I wouldn't class Fury as a hall of famer he may get in there for his antics and unique personality but he certainly doesn't have a HOF career in my view.

I certainly don't think AJ deserves to be in the HOF either.

Gold medals has nothing to do with how you're rated as a professional and I'm tired of this argument constantly being used for Usyk when it was never used before for any other fighter.

Do historians rank Ali as the GOAT Heavyweight for winning an Olympic gold medal ? Or is it for his amazing resume and memorable fights as a professional ?

As for how many fighters did Mayweather beat in their prime who are considered HOF's ? Well Fury is not in his prime either what makes it a good win for Usyk is the size difference but you're talking about a fighter who almost lost to an MMA fighter 2 fights before.

But Mayweather beat Corrales, Hatton, in their primes who are definitely HOF fighters he also beat ODLH, Canelo, being the smaller man above his best weightclass.

I'm sorry I don't think Usyk has anywhere near the depth to his resume to be classed at the same level as Pacquiao or Mayweather.

 

I think you are confused on what it takes to get into the hall of fame. Take a look at who all is in it…even someone like Timothy Bradley got in. Fury is in no question.

 

Bradley has a win over Marquez, Pacquiao, and had a very solid career overall.

Fury started off well with a good upset win over Wladimir even if he was old but then he went into a hiatus and just hasn't fought that often wasting his time in trilogies with Wilder, Chisora. And the Wilder wins have aged like milk if we're being honest.

 

I really hate that Bradley gets credit for that “win” over Pacquiao. Regardless, I respect your opinions, but just disagree slightly. It’s all good.