Usyk in the 70s.

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  1. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then the question is: How would he do fighting 50+ fights? Fighting 4 or 5 times a year. Year after year.
     
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  2. themaster458

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    Not an argument
     
  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All right,, Usyk has 7 fights at heavyweight, Chazz Witherspoon, Chisora, both ancient dinosaurs. Dubois who quit, his only stoppage.
    2 wins over a faded Joshua and 2 over a fat mental case in Fury . ,,and off this you think he'd beat Frazier, Ali, Foreman, Holmes,,,,Bull
    I seriously doubt he'd beat Quarry, doesn't possess the power or hand speed
     
  4. themaster458

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    Shows your own biases when you devalue Usyk win while overvauling someone like Quarry who Usyk would make quick work of maybe actually watch modern boxing instead of just looking at the results.
     
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  5. reckless

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    He'd dominated the 70s.

    'Big' George Foreman was the same size as Usyk. Usyk would always be in range to land his shots. He'd land at will beating Foreman to the punch and outwork him. Usyk was pushing 280lb Fury around the ring, he'd have no problem against 220lb Foreman.

    Frazier would be no problem and is simply too small. The Ali of the 70s wouldn't be able to use his hugging tactics and didn't have the workmate if the 60s version.
     
  6. Reinhardt

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    Quick work? he couldn't stop Chazz Witherspoon! Lol!!!
     
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  7. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And? Ali couldn't stop Chuck Wepner so maybe stop nitpicking and actually watch the fighters you seem to know nothing about.
     
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  8. bbjc

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    I think in fairness these guys would adapt to usyks style if he was fighting in the 70,s. Not really seen any of them fight a guy like usyk.

    Outside of the terrific skill of usyk....the biggest reason of his success is down to the pressure mainly how he puts it right back on you after you attack to keep him off you. He plays a chess match from the outside giving you something to think about one he usually wins. Enough to get you fighting to keep him off you....if you go forward he usually gets right back on you after diffusing it getting your stamina reserves going. Guys like ali etc we,re more accurate than fury and joshua. He was also the master at getting off first. I think ali beats him in a boxing match.

    Usyks as good as it gets but ali had freakish ability. Just absolute gifted timing. We,ve all seen the video of him moving his head dodging punch after punch etc.

    Even guys like frazier etc. He just keeps going forward. Hes not stopping to reset. Hes getting on you and trying to push you back every minute of the round and he had the stamina to keep it up. That would cause usyk problems. Frazier will walk through your fire to get a result. Something that fury and joshua failed to do. Mainly because usyk makes that happen....but these guys are trained not to be hit nowadays. With Frazier etc it was part of getting his style working. He would take a shot to get you pushed back which would cause usyk problems.
     
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  9. Serge

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    The dinosaur worshipping paleontologists don't only pine for the good old days of Brylcreem and when the sport was a regional sport but old age is clearly affecting their brains in other ways too because they can't even remember fights from a few years ago with any clarity. Usyk did stop Witherspoon and Usyk is fighting giants who are much or way bigger and heavier than him, whereas, conversely, which they're also forgetting albeit it might be conveniently this time, Ali was very often the much bigger or bigger man who was not giving away near the kind of physical advantages as Usyk routinely is, sans maybe once or twice

    Hell, I remember seeing Ali get saved from a certain KO defeat by the bell after getting dropped like a sack of potatoes by a single left hook from 185lb paper skinned, paper chinned Euro level leprechaun who weighed 22lbs less than him and only 5-7lbs more than Clenelo lol

    Lucky that bell came to Ali's rescue like a superhero otherwise he 100% would've been taking a long snooze on the canvas. That's never happened to Usyk in over 370 fights amateur and pro and nor would it ever happen either.
     
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  10. tragedy

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    Struggled with Mairis Briedis
     
  11. Serge

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    Who is an excellent fighter and an iron jawed massive puncher who posseses the
    one shot power to spark very durable 250lb giants out cold on their face with a single shot, not a 185lb paper skinned, paper chinned Euro level leprechaun who weighed 22lbs less than Ali and 5-7lbs more than Clenelo lol

    As if all the dinosaurs you guys worship didn't have many struggles or struggle or lose. Hell many of them were KO''d in the midst of their primes

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  12. tarrant45

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    That is exactly why every win has value, because every fight is a risk, and why comparing a guy with 7 fights in the division to Hw's with 50 fights and proven track records over many many years is ridiculous. Apparently beating Fury and AJ means you clean out the 70s now. You can't make this stuff up.
     
  13. Serge

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    Stop wasting my time please because I don't take you remotely seriously
     
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