Usyk is just superior to Fury isn’t he?

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Reminds me of all the other times Fury was definitely gonna lose.

    It's like people who predict the stock market will tank every single year. It's definitely this time, guys.
     
  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great fight. Still think people are underestimating that size/natural weight difference.

    Fury,s not known as a puncher but usyk will feel that extra weight every time he gets hit. Always feel that a lot of these fighters get on the peds for the big fights possibly explaining furys hot and cold performances. My best guess is he,ll be back hitting like he was against wilder in the second fight.

    Usyks class tho. He mentally and physically tires you out. Pretty much their number one gameplan. I think theres a point you hit where that stops being as effective as it needs to be tho. Imo when the opponents 3 stone heavier....5 inches taller. Longer length etc and knows how to smother....fight at range etc.

    Cant count him out tho because hes so good its hard to completely back against him getting something working.
     
  3. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The best version of Fury beats the best version of Usyk. Time will tell which version Fury brings on the night.
     
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  4. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    If the Fury of the 2nd Wilder fight shows up...he'll beat Usyk...But that won't happen...
     
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    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Who says this ? At betting pages fury is still favorite afaik
     
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  7. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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  8. Rob

    Rob Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That sounds like me. I often pick Fury to lose and he always proves me wrong - against Klitschko, against Wilder...this time though...I got Usyk all day.
     
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  9. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    People need to understand that it's all about the mindset of Fury as to which Fury turns up.

    If you think it's the careless, negligent Fury that was fighting useless midget McDermott (1), fighting cruiserweight Cunningham who he'll walk through and show zero respect, fighting the useless MMA fighter Ngannou, then you couldnt be anymore wrong.

    Fury knows exactly how good Usyk is, this is the Fury who fought Klitschko, the Fury of Wilder 2, the Fury who put a clinic on Dillian Whyte.

    I see many people getting comfort out of Fury v Cunningham. Fury fought Cunningham with absolutely zero respect, had no strategy, was turning up to just walk through him and act the clown for the American media.

    The Fury who turns up for Usyk in the fight of the century for the undisputed title is a different kettle of fish. This is fully focused, training his ass off Fury, with a strategic game plan of A, B, and C. Whenever you right Fury off, whenever his back is against the wall, that is when Fury is in his element to produce his best.

    I'm a big fan of Usyk also but I will put my neck on the line in this fight and say that Fury will put an absolute clinic on Usyk fighting from range with the jab and having big success with the check right hook before making it more physical and eventually stopping Usyk around 10 or 11. I think the decisiveness of this win for Fury is gonna shock a lot of people.
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    How is this even a question?

    Usyk is obviously superior to Belly. Far superior. If they were even remotely close in size no one would give Belly a chance and rightly so. Don't get me wrong, Belly is a very talented boxer and at his best a very tough night's work for anyone and I fully expect him to be at his best vs Usyk because he's trained like a demon and has whipped himself into the best shape he's been since he fought Wlad.

    He didn't have a problem facing The Dosser x 3 in his backyard but it's taken all the money in Saudi, the ridicule of pretty much the entire boxing world, hemorrhaging millions of his fans, and having the Saudi billionaire who is staging the fight openly cheerleading for him and his own promoter becoming a business partner with said Saudi billionaire in order to prise him out of the chicken coop to finally man up to face Usyk.

    He didn't feel compelled to whip himself into this kind of shape or need a deck this heavily stacked in his favour to entice him to face The Dosser x 3

    He even fought him the first time when he was a 40% shell of himself.

    All this tells you exactly how lowly he rates The Dosser and how high he rates Usyk.

    But as talented as Belly undoubtedly is, when he actually takes training and his opponent seriously and is switched on that is, Usyk is better in virtually every department and even in some of the ones he might possibly not be he's at worst about even as him


    Among others

    More skilful
    Much better resume
    Much better chin
    Physically stronger P4P
    Much better amateur career
    Probably a harder puncher P4P too

    Belly just has an obscene size, weight, reach and height advantage over him and that's what makes it difficult for Usyk

    And then you factor in Belly is also very skilled and athletic for his size with a high ring IQ too

    Usyk has beat more world champions in 21 fights than Belly and The Dosser have combined in 80 fights and almost all his were prime, whereas, conversely only one of Belly's and The Dosser's were.

    Usyk is in the giant slaying business, Belly is in the leprechaun slaying one.

    Imagine the monster Usyk would be vs MWs and SMWs? Exactly.
     
  11. Salty Dog

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    to me the deciding factor is likely to be this : if the ref allows fury to drape his torso over the back of usyk consistently throughout the fight, usyk will tire and lose. i'm rooting for usyk, but i fear that is what will happen.
     
  12. BrainyBoxer

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    100% agree. People like True Geordie who were quick to write of Fury after the fight with Francis will be eating their words on the night.
     
  13. miniq

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  14. snafu

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    Nah. Everybody is underestimating the great one, the GK. He will sort the cruiser weight, this is a no nonsense fully trained and fit fury, lights out or a majority decision for the GK.
     
  15. drenlou

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    I would say so, but hopefully we get to see for ourselves in 2 weeks.