Usyk is just superior to Fury isn’t he?

I did forget that. Do you remember which round that was? Otherwise, has Joshua been guilty of anything else?

 

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Usyk is superior.

IMO, Fury is as mercurial and difficult of a fighter to assess than any in recent memory. He can look like a cagey, masterclass thinking man's fighter of incredible heart one fight and an incompetent and disinterested one dimensional slob the next. Prism of many colors that changes drastically every time you turn it in the light.

Sure, I can see Usyk boxing circles around Fury as one conclusion. I can also envision Fury matching Usyk move and counter for move and counter and wearing him down with his superior power, size and weight and seeing Usyk out the door. For me, it's a fascinating fight to see who the real Fury is. This is the final test.

 

Fury is feather fisted for his size.

 

Yes he is and so is usyk which is why they both became such good boxers.

 

Peak Fury my ***. That so call Peak Fury has fought 40 years old Klitschko, who has family problems and going by Fury fanboys Wilder 2.
Fury - Wlad was 115-112 fight, with Fury winning, just cause Klitschko didn't throw a s*****, not cause Fury was so great.
Against Wilder he dominates him, but i can make the same excuse for Wilder, as Fury fans seems to make for him, he didn't show up that night, he didn't train properly, and all of this garbage stuff. Imagine making excuse for a PRO fighter that he didn't take most of his fights seriously, and didn't train properly ....
And sorry, but Wilder was never ever any good.

And this "best" version of Fury would beat the best version of Usyk is funny statement, when Usyk is 18 months older than Fury.
And at that time of the fight happen, Fury is still 35, and Usyk is 37 and almost a half. Usyk is Born in January, while Fury is in August.
But not just that, but Usyk styles is all about his speed, reflexes, footwork and cardio, and all of which are the first to go away with age.

Fury quite the opposite, as he relies on his size, reach, etc, which you can do well even at advance age.
Not to mention this fraud pulled out of the fight like 5 time already, and have all the time in the world to take all the PEDS in the World, as we know there won't be VADA testing for this, not that it's going to matter, as Turki is Fury own protector, and Queensberry one of the biggest promoters out there.


If anything prime Usyk, which was his CW days, and at best AJ 1 with slightly passes his prime was going to toy with Fury.

Age would not be a factor if they were 30, 31 and 32/33.
But when you past 35-36 and you can get old overnight.

And the only person that delays the fight in order to age his opponent is Fury, and this is very well documented.

As far as meltdown, this forum is flooded with Fury fans and their alt accounts, so there will be a meltdown for sure, but not from Usyk fans side.

I just hope the fight actually happen and the best fighter on the night to win without any corruption and bias, as if there is one, this will be the end of Boxing for many viewers.

And this is truly the last from me, as there is absolutely no sense wasting time with Fury fanatics on this side or losing nerves and precious time.

 

No it's not the last from you, how many times I have you typed that now, to only reappear and spew more hate and venom

The above post isn't normal man. You need to chill in all sincerity lol

It's just boxing, not a world war. Fury may not be a nice guy, but he's hardly A tyrant or a child killer. Just sit back a moment. Breathe and reflect. It really is only boxing, a sport. In a few short years these guys won't matter and it will be another fight, with others to cheer on, or dislike

Sincerely, breathe and relax!!, it's only a sport lol

 

This is very true...

He is, however, a confirmed/caught PEDs cheat, disrespectful to opponents (not in the BS performative trash talking - consistently not bothering to train properly for fights is much worse imho), and his in-ring tactics/dirtiness isn't really for the purist.

This is all very true.

At that point, I'd much rather be looking back on the defining fighter of the era as the clean fighter in and out of the ring, who'd fight anyone, anywhere and with the deck stacked against him...

And fortunately, it does look (to me) like that better man is also the better fighter. Let's hope I'm right, it'd make for much better history and a better image for the sport.

 

We'll find out.

it's difficult to know how good fury is, but prime 2020 Fury IMO would beat Usyk

 

Fury is going f..k him up buddy
Hope you can deal with it better than the guy I quoted

I think you will have excuses for sure. I won't if Usyk wins

 

Don't have the round off the top of my head (you can re-watch it if you like), but he also tossed Usyks belts out of the ring and threw a massive hissy fit at the end of the fight.

 

No excuses, as long as it's clean and not the result of cheating, dodgy calls or preferential treatment.

The big difference, I think, is if Usyk wins there's very little chance that any of the above will be relevant - if Fury does, and he hugs like Haney, lowblows repeatedly like Dubois or elbows like, well, Fury...

Well, it'd be harder to let that go without comment - you can understand that that's reasonable, I'm sure?

 

Ali, Hatton, Floyd, Wlad, Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield etc are just a few that used dirty tactics

Fury will rough him up and it won't be clean. It's not perfect, but it is what it is. Nobody fought dirtier than Ali or Evander yet they are glorified for it

I think low blows won't be in affect, but clinching etc, yeah it is going to happen. Lewis, Wlad etc clinched too

I already know the excuses will come, but I don't care. Fury is nothing to me. Only extreme haters think I worship him, but that's balls. I just think he's the best Heavyweight in the world on his day and I expect him to prove it again

Anyway, I'm glad it's finally approaching

 

Indeed... Fury's bad for it, but he's not alone in doing it - as long as it's not too excessive I wouldn't necessarily complain, but if it's clearly the primary tactic then I won't be overly impressed.

As for low blows... It depends - if Fury's clearly behind and desperate I wouldn't put too much past him.
I hope I'm wrong on this one, but it wouldn't be surprising if he went there.

Likewise with Usyk - I like how he fights cleanly and without a stacked deck (often against one) but I'm not emotionally invested in him winning... I just think, strongly, that he's very likely to.

I think Usyks a better fighter, and expect him to prove it.

Having said that, it's no secret that I don't rate Wilder at all (and never have) - which makes it difficult for me to credit him with having done all that much since Wlad.
Even giving him a pass on Ngannou - terribly disrespectful to come in such terrible shape, but that's why the fight went how it did... He still nearly lost to Wallin as well, who's decent rather than great.

I'm unconvinced Fury's been really that close to the version of himself that beat Wlad (and I'm not convinced Wlad was close to his best in any case)... Realistically, I think he's being overhyped - he's good, but I don't think he's proven he's the elite that's being claimed.

 

In terms of being a professional? Sure. As a p4p athlete? I would certainly say so. As a man, having your stuff as together as possible, overall? Sure seems like it. But as an overall heavyweight fighter? I honestly just have to see it with Fury coming in and doing what he does when the perceived challenge and threat is biggest. It's still a question mark for me and with no mistake do I think it's better for boxing to see Fury win. It's clearly a hurt on the division, the way he used to accuse Klitschko's reign of being. But that doesn't mean he won't turn it up on the night, impressively.