Usyk is lineal and undisputed champion

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  1. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Although noone defeated Lennox Lewis, Wlad klitschko became the lineal champion by dominant wins in the HW division. Tyson Fury beat him but then stopped fighting for three years to avoid a rematch. Since then Usyk has beaten AJ has beaten Wlad. That makes Usyk lineal, and any diatribe from Fury about being the longest lasting lineal champion should be ignored.

    Fury has ducked Usyk for the fourth time, but it has been a multi-year duck. Usyk is clearly the best HW and is more undisputed than other fighters, eg Haney who only beat Kambosos to become undisputed at 135, then lost but was gifted a win.

    Boxing fans know the real champion.
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Is Usyk bests Hrgovic, his hw resume beats Fury.

    - Joshua is better than Wilder
    - Hrgovic is better than old Wlad

    and I agree, Usyk is true lineal champion.
     
  3. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk is lineal in my eyes, and already has a top HW resume - Chisora to match Fury's Chisora, Dubois to match Fury's win over Whyte, and AJ x2 which imo is better than Wilder x2.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    No, even if you would pick Hrgovic to win. Wladimir was THE champion and still at the top.
    Hrgovic has fought a single top 10 ranked guy.
     
  5. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll explain the difference between a duck and a delay.

    When you duck someone, you have have chance to fight them but don't sign to fight them, you fight Wallin instead. Then you avoid them again to fight an mma fighter. See, the reason it's a duck is that there is no fight actually signed or going to happen. That's AJ ducking Wilder.

    A delay is when you've made the fight, it's signed and organised, then it gets delayed by injury or some other factor, but you're still signed to fight and it will now be on a different date. That's Fury v Usyk.

    Now, if Fury pulls out for no good reason and the fight is terminated, you can call it a duck.
     
  6. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    You either have critical thinking skills or you don't.. NPCs among us still think the cut was accidental..
     
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  7. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ridiculous thing to say.
     
  8. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    Right because Fury didn't have a chance to fight Usyk last year?

    Are all Fury fans inbreds like you? He was the one holding the belt hostage while fighting Chisora, Whyte, & Ngannou (the same MMA fighter you now have an objection to AJ fighting after Wilder didn't keep his end of the deal & got exposed by Parker which apparently is also AJ's fault)

    I can't decide whether Fury is the worse poison for this sport or his fangirls at this point
     
  9. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad was 40 and very slow.
     
  10. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    No Usyk isn't. We'll see in May.
    Fanboys are really hoping May doesn't happen.
    Like we go from April to June and Usyk is the forever fantasy champion.
     
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  11. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    And still clearly the nr 1 guy in the division. No one was favored to beat him.
    He was the champ who was constantly defending the belts vs top ranked opponents.
     
  12. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    No one wants to see Wilder vs Joshua anymore since Wilder got exposed as being a bit rubbish.
     
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  13. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    This means that Andy Ruiz Jr. was a lineal champion. Yes or no?
     
  14. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hrgovic hasn't beaten anyone better than AJ, Wilder or Wlad. Usyk beating Hrgovic is a foregone conclusion because Hrgovic is massively overrated. Why else is he fighting absolute bums like De Mori?
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd still like to see the fight because realistically Wilder would have sparked the Wallin AJ faced in 2 rounds.

    AJ v Wilder is still very much a 50/50 fight in my eyes.