Usyk is lineal and undisputed champion

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Klitschko looked like s**** against Jennings. And he won by 116-111 on 2 judges scorecards. Klitschko was missing like mad in that fight. The footwork and his jab was gone, even back in the Pulev fight. He also have issue with his right hand. He almost didn't throw it in the Jennings fight, hell in the Pulev fight, and in Fury fight.
    Last fight when Klitschko looked really good was Wach. Maybe Pianeta and that was it. Also injured started to occur, which obviously bother him. Had injury pre Pulev, pre Fury, and had family struggle. He was also 39.7 and prolly complacent.

    This Klitschko has nothing to do with Klitschko with Stewards. Hell even Klitschko for the AJ fight, though he was older, was a lot better version, as he was willing to throw punches and go for it.

    Fury never beaten a younger prime fighter than him, a top one i mean. Wilder was what 35-36 when Fury beaten him.
    Just like Fury fans are crying that WIlder is shot now i can claim that Wilder was shot even back then. He was on the decline you know ...
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    :lol: Why are you bringing up Fury now?
     
  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Wilder was such an easy fight for AJ, why not fight him instead of Wallin? Why fight Ngannou? It's a duck. I'm not even a fan of Wilder's and it's still a blatant duck from AJ.

    This is the second fight in a row from AJ where the co-main event is better than the main event.
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And why would AJ fight Wilder, after Wilder lost every single round to Parker, h? Wilder also ducked Zhang, which was his comeback fight. Why you are not mentioning this, h? This was the most blatant duck ever.

    AJ is fighting Ngannou for obvious reason. Destroying Fury so call legacy.
    Wilder fight was signed, and this was confirmed by everyone. It's Wilder fought that he lost.
    No one would wanted to see AJ - Wilder, in terms of casual public, simply cause WIlder lost every single round. And even if AJ was to win against Wilder, he wouldn't have gotten any credit.

    Ngannou is the hot name, who beat in everyone eyes the so call WBC Champion.

    So explain how AJ duck Wilder, when he signed to fight him, but it was Wilder that didn't do his job to get the fight.
     
  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hrgovic would not be a better win than 20 defense Wlad (even if Wlad was older). It would be a better win than Joshua/Wlad but not the reigning champ version.

    Yes, though. I'd have no problem considering Usyk the lineal champion right now. During Fury's "temporary" retirement, Usyk and Joshua were 1 and 2 and fought to establish a new line.
     
  6. SimonLock

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    I would like to propose an unofficial rule. If somebody insists that someone is Lineal because of reason X, they have to provide a full list of lineal champions, applying reason X consistently across history. If you can’t reasonably defend the full list, then the reason is a bad one.
     
  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Using that logic why would Wilder fight AJ after losing to Ruiz? Works both ways.

    No matter which way you split it Wilder actually wants to fight AJ today, and AJ clearly doesn't. Instead AJ is fighting a 0-1 novice.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You seriously??? Wilder was offered Parker rematch, he didn't want any of that. AJ run it back with Ruiz and won 12-0.
     
  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because he wants to fight AJ. But AJ doesn't want to fight him. Wonder why...

    :eek: Quack
     
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  10. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So with this ridiculous theory that Usyk is now Lineal and Undisputed Champion without
    1 defeating Fury for his Lineal title
    2 without even fighting for the WBC Heavyweight belt
    Then by this absurd logic Klitschko was also Undisputed as well as lineal title holder and then with Fury beating Klitschko he then became Undisputed as well as lineal title holder. So according to all this proposed bollocks of a theory Fury was the last Undisputed Champion and not Lewis. ROFL !