Usyk is not fighting anyone except Fury and AJ at HW

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which means nothing at all.
     
  2. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kabayel and Bakole are both exciting newcomers coming off big wins. Usyk hasn't fought Parker who currently holds the WBO interim belt.

    All 3 are good options. If Usyk truly can't help the rematches he could unify by fighting Dubois again. Thats 4 options even though he already turned Dubois down I think hence why the belts were split.
     
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  3. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    He’s done enough, most would have already retired by his age and with his accomplishments. If he wants two big paychecks before he goes let him. A Parker fight would’ve been nice to see but whatever.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I actually think it is a shame that he is not going to get around to fighting Parker. On Parker's side, he has earned it, and on Usyk's, it would add to his legacy just a little to beat a former titlist who resurrected his career and is #4 of the era. Good fight that should happen.

    Zhang is a 40 year-old guy who fights for three rounds. People like him because he is a big, hard-hitting southpaw who throws very clean punches, but he's not going to knock Usyk out--I literally think he has no chance whatsoever. And he is doesn't have the accomplishments to be meaningful to Usyk--its literally a Chisora-level victory for him.

    Kabeyal is a guy I like, but again, his big accomplishments aren't there. He's better off on deck for the next generation when Usyk leaves.
     
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  5. miniq

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    I hope so because all I see is Usyk and Fury retiring and leaving an abyss behind that can never be filled.
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    The rematches I believe were contractual
    Of course some of the contenders aren't getting title shots. I would think this is due to the 4 main titles until recently being held between 2 fighters (Usyk and Fury).
    Usyk did defend against some top contenders against Joshua and Dubios and then had a unification fight.
    Fury fought Chisora and Ngannou and the fight with Usyk was twice to my recollection pushed back

    I get the impression you are looking for quantity over quality to a degree

    Joshua is fighting a contender next and Fury is challenging the champion

    When there is one champion there won't be as many title fights or as many title opportunities for contenders but having one champion clearly shows who the top man in the division is
     
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  7. HistoryZero26

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    Thing with Kabayel is he actually was European champ nearly 8 years ago and is the same age as Parker. Hes not that young hes kinda stuck between the generations like Parker. It seems like no one who mattered(except Chisora who fights everyone) gave him a fight for years. Kabayel might have been the best HW for years and we just never knew because no one fights anyone. We're perceiving him as next generation because of that not because he actually is.


    I value quality over quantity within reason. I have Foreman as my HW GOAT. Usyks resume is just too short and too many of his wins were won by 1 or 2 rounds.

    I've said Usyk is clearly number 1 for this era. You can't elevate anyone above him he beat his rivals for that title. His resume compares terribly to greats of other eras.
     
  8. NewChallenger

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    Usyk will lose to the first highly offensive fighter I believe. If a guy at heavyweight goes ham for 3 rounds and Usyk survives the punches which he will get hit by as it is inevitable,then I don't see anyone in this era beating him.

    Usyks chin is not heavyweight caliber as he has been wobbled by half assed punches from Fury and others. Fury and Joshua's mistake was trying to box him. If Fury comes into the rematch with the mentality he had in Wilder 2, and Usyk wins , no one in this divison in this era I believe takes him,I just don't see Usyk surviving an actual Heavyweight onslaught, he isn't Holyfield
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is flat out stupid to say about an undisputed heavyweight champion who has not been knocked down as a pro. Have you actually ever watched his fights?
     
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  10. NewChallenger

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    I'm not going to discuss anything regarding Usyk as most people who defend Usyk it just impossible to talk to. At this particular time this group of fans is like talking to a wall. Tyson fanboys and Lewis are bad,but atleast there is some level of discussion possible there.

    The way Usyk fans speak of him is literally almost as if, and I am not exhaggarating here, it is the second coming of Jesus. And I just don't want to engage in that
     
  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In other words...no, you have not watched his fights, and have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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  12. NewChallenger

    NewChallenger Member Full Member

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    I have. I just don't have the patience for someone a fanbase that thinks Usyk beats Ali,Foreman,Liston,Tyson,Lewis with both arms tied behind his back riding a unicycle while he juggles 10 traffic cones in a burning building on mars
     
  13. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is a trilogy justified when AJ already lost twice? Let someone else have a turn.
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Pity. Would have liked to have seen him fight Kabayel or Jai Opetaia at least.
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is called hyperbole. Mostly used by imbeciles. You are pretty much a machine for shitty posts.
     
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