Usyk is pound for pound 1#

as long as the boxing rules go, they are the same weight the same size. You cant be the #1 p4p if you are not the best in your division, EASY AS THAT. And if you think otherwise then the one checking his brain should be the one in your mirror.

 

Its called PFP not weight division per weight division.They already have those ratings.

 

yes, sure. A welter who is the #1 p4p but is not the best welter of the world. A HW who is the best 4p4 but is not the best HW in the world.

Couldnt be more stupid.

The worst part is that you are not trolling.

 

Yes its clearly

1. Usyk
2. Canelo

Canelo still penalized for his losses against Golovkin. I will give it to Canelo for going up and beating guys like Billy Joe and Kovalev, but that don't make you #1.

 

History you ****ing idiots. Learn the sport. Uysk is clearly number 1. Canelo is not bad. Needs to go beat beterbeiv to get no.1

 

Wheres I do not agree, I respect this opinion.

Anyone jumping in here with Canelo can **** off.

We are feel!

 

You cross that bridge when we come to it. Right now he is no 1 over Fury..

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Canelo, Inoue, and Usyk are in another league from the rest, that is for certain.

 

What puts Inoue over Usyk? Serious question. I can't argue your opinion, just curious what drives your decision?

 

only an idiot could state that a HW fighter is the best P4P fighter but not the best HW.

 

Without a doubt, beyond any and all arguments.

Usyk is P4P #1

 

Ummm, no?

Same division doesn't make them the same weight - Usyk at his heaviest ever vs Joshua is still some 40-50lbs lighter than Fury comes in at.

40-50lbs is absolutely HUGE - that's like putting a middleweight in with a cruiser FFS.

Fury may or may not be better than Usyk at HW, but lb for lb, there's no denying that Usyk is better because he weighs in at A LOT less.


Having read the thread further, it's clear this isn't sinking in....

To be clear, just because a heavyweight is allowed to come in as heavy as they like doesn't mean you judge them as if their weight is infinite - if you do that, no heavyweight can ever be P4P by default.

Picking Fury's weight as an arbitrary value by which to judge Usyk's P4P position is also ridiculous - you might as well judge him by Ali's weight, or why not Valuev's?

For that matter, if you want to question Usyk's P4P credentials because you question his status in his current division, you're necessarily ignoring past achievements - by the same reasoning, Canelo isn't P4P because his current division (SMW) is full of utter crap and there's no way you can rank him high P4P when he's in a weak division, doesn't matter what he did before SMW.


However you want to slice it, Usyk's position as a P4P fighter isn't affected by what Fury weighs without making a mockery of what P4P is (for however much a flawed concept it is to begin with).

 

I'm in awe of what Usyk did. I genuflect before him.

 

Usyk was incredible