Usyk is probably very happy with the result of Dubois vs Joyce

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  1. truth_teller

    truth_teller Member banned Full Member

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    Usyk, who looked terrible against a shot and old Chisora, is probably very happy with the outcome of last night's Dubois vs Joyce fight.

    In my opinion, Dubois has exactly the worst style for Usyk, judging Usyk's terrible performance against Chisora. When Chisora pressed him heavily, Usyk struggled and was losing the match. As soon as Chisora gassed, Usyk was finally able to take control of the match. Which tells us about Usyk's weak spot.

    Chisora planted the heavyweight punch fear in Usyk's head. He will live with it from now on.

    Dubois would pressure Usyk with his heavy hand and demolish him in early rounds. He would definitely become Usyk's nemesis and retire him from heavyweight.

    Joyce on the other hand would fight technically against Usyk, considering Usyk is a better technician, Joyce would lose the match like Chazz Witherspoon did.

    Therefore I am sure Usyk is very happy because he will not have to fight Dubois, if AJ vacates the WBO belt.
     
  2. Eye of Timaeus(2)

    Eye of Timaeus(2) Member Full Member

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    Dubois is a bum and wouldn't be hitting air all night. He would lose to Chisora too.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't look "terrible" against Chisora. In a sense, he did what he always does, in that he gave away the first two rounds, and won every single subsequent round. He also visibly rocked Chisora at the end of a round, forgot which. The difference was that he did all of that throwing 2/3 his capacity, because the fight was basically a sparring session to him.

    As for Joyce, he should be happy. This is basically how his first world heavyweight title fight will go, only a few more rounds...

     
  4. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Usyk cares either way.
     
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  5. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk has a field day with either. Not sure what your point is.
     
  6. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It seems like you are probably very UNHAPPY with the results of both Dubois-Joyce and Usyk-Chisora.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 The Ringlefinch Annihilator Staff Member

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    You sound disturbed. Are you well? Maybe Boxing isn't for you. First you thought Dubois was more skilled than Joyce, you were wrong. Then you scored the match in lopsided fashion to Dubois, until you literally couldn't anymore, you were wrong once again. Meanwhile, Chisora is coming off of stopping Takam, Szpilka, Price and beating Gashi, not to mention giving Whyte hell twice, all better wins and yes even losses than ANYTHING Dubois has come close to accomplishing to date. Quite frankly Bakole's resume ****s all over Dubois' as well. For all intents and purposes, Chisora's style was terrible for Usyk, the one kind he's always struggled with, he had two shaky rounds to begin with and took over from there.

    There is NOTHING about Dubois' style that would pose Usyk even the slightest of problems. He may have landed three genuinely clean shots on Joe the entire match, who while I love Joe, he's not Speedy Gonzalez in there. And if his lethargic ass head movement was making Dubois miss all night, Dubois wouldn't land a finger on Usyk. So... you're wrong once again.:lol:

    But yeah... sure, Usyk I'm sure is thrilled that he might have to face an even slower version of a man he's already beaten decisively, after all, he's coming off of taking the scalp of a hypejob that simpletons like you still can't process wasn't hot ****. So he's beating the man that beat "the man." That'll look great on his resume.
     
  8. Surrix

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    He looked terrible, there is no place for excuses. Chisora is good boxer but he is very slow. How Usyk might deal with large boxers that are not very slow but just slow?
    If he had not Chisora but Whyte in the ring, maybe this ended for him as session how to get TKOed.
    Of course, still Dear God, luckily for Usyk Dereck is very slow. Otherwise he had been finished in distance.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 The Ringlefinch Annihilator Staff Member

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    On his slowest day, Chisora is still twice as fast as Dubois and Joyce put together.

    So what. He arguably beat Whyte once, and gave him hell the second time. I rate both of those performances over beating Nathan Gorman.:lol:

    I highly doubt it. Usyk had him figured out in a round and a half, a faster version would have made more mistakes and left more openings, and probably would have been KO'd by Usyk.
     
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  10. Surrix

    Surrix Active Member Full Member

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    Looks that Usyk didn't had KO power even in CW when he stepped up. lower ranked boxers he was capable to stop, with Hunter and Glowacki it didn't happened, barely defeated Briedis on cards ( interestingly might be to see their match at HW ), then he had Murat. Murat didn't had Usyk experience level, even not close to his experience level. Murat also was slower than Usyk's WBSS final and semi final version.
    With these Whiterspoon and Chisora Usyk looked that is becoming slow, not such sharp and agile like in WBSS.
    His WBSS version was interesting to watch. Mainly cos he was most agile from these boxers in WBSS, with best jab too.

    Chisora and Whiterspoon moved really slow vs him. Usyk's earlier version due to more agile and productive probably easily stopped them.
    Now Usyk looks that becomed slower, less agile, like tired.
     
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  11. Thecheckjab

    Thecheckjab Member Full Member

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    Usyk outpoints both of them
     
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Struggled with Chisora? I am a massive Chisora fan and I gave him 2 rounds. Not sure what fight you were watching but Usyk did pretty much what he usually does, other than 2 rough early rounds where Chisora threw the kitchen sink at him and still couldn't put him away.

    Dubois would of been taken apart by Usyk, far too predictable, his southpaw stance would take away Dubois' jab and his low work rate would suit Usyk would allow him to dictate the pace and gas Dubois.

    Joyce is a far tougher opponent for Usyk, one who won't gas, one that won't respect his power. Only issue Joyce has is he'll struggle to pin Usyk down, he's too quick and agile and can only hope in a 12 round fight he can wear out Usyk with relentless pressure and work rate.
     
  13. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk relentlessly accumulates points, and positions himself to up the effort in the late rounds (if need be). He paces himself for the full allocation of rounds, and stays pretty disciplined to that game-plan where never being in trouble trumps looking impressive offensively. Rather than losing some concentration and tactics in the second half he's finding his zone. He starts to assert himself later when his opponent has tired, and is even or behind on points. It's a subtle but effective strategy. A points win, is a win. It worked with Chisora.

    Just my take. Not really sure Dubios has the ability to counter that.
     
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  14. aviator

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    Usyk vs Joshua is a 50-50 type of fight. maybe 55-45 in favour Joshua. Anyway Usyk will be a live dog here.
     
  15. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I stopped reading after "Struggle with Chisora".

    Rest must be crap..
     
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