Usyk is probably very happy with the result of Dubois vs Joyce

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  1. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    After seeing all of the nonsense you posted about Dubois, I give you credit for not running away and hiding in shame. You are a deeply disturbed person but it’s fun to read your senseless rants. Like watching a car accident in slow motion. That type of fun.
     
  2. truth_teller

    truth_teller Member banned Full Member

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    What happened to Dubois is a road accident. He was too green to throw against an experienced fighter like Joyce. He will come back. If he had more experience, he would knock out Joyce in round 4 at the latest. He will be a KO machine like Mike Tyson, he needs better training and more experience.

    Heavyweight giants AJ, Fury, Klitschko would all destroy the little man Usyk. We all saw how he complained to referee in early rounds in Chisora match like a primary school student. He was NERVOUS, because he knew what was coming for him in his first serious HW fight, and he got it. Too bad Chisora has terrible stamina and condition, if it was a 33 year old Chisora, Usyk would be counting the stars in round 3.

    Look at the official scorecard:

    113 [url]Jan Christensen[/url] 115
    113 [url]Yury Koptsev[/url] 115
    112 [url]Robert Williams[/url] 117


    A very narrow win for Usyk. The fight could have gone either way.

    Let's accept this, Usyk is not cut for heavyweight division. He should go back to cruiserweight ot even better light heavyweight, there is still money for him in those divisions.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    How cute, you actually buy into official scorecards.:lol: Seeing the way you score, Stevie Wonder would probably make a better boxing judge than you.

    And keep believing the hype. Dubious doesn't beat anyone in the Top 10. He simply doesn't have the know how. His ring IQ is poor, and he freezes up emotionally when something isn't working for him and is incapable adjusting. It is what it is, some boxers are mentally weak, and simply do not have a brain for boxing. The sooner you come to that realization, the less heartbreak you'll put yourself through. What I'm saying is.... don't get your hopes up.;)

    Usyk lost 2 rounds, and even one of them was competitive. Chisora is his stylistic nightmare, and AJ, Joyce, Wilder and Dubois are literally made to order for him. Here, I wrote a more thorough explanation of the match, maybe it'll help you properly process it.
    [url]A Helpful Guide In Processing The Win Over Chisora By The Charismatic Enigma That Is Oleksandr Usyk.[/url]
     
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  4. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Surprising confidence in a man beaten by a jab....
     
  5. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Struggle against Chisora is a relative statement. Considering many here we're picking him to easily defeat Joshua and Fury and picking Usyk in just about every fantasy matchup against past all time greats then hell yes he struggled. Fat James Toney would have knocked out that version of Chisora in 8 rounds and Usyk had to pot shot his way to victory and Chisora remained a legitimate threat the entire fight. For a guy who would have beaten Ali, Holyfield, Tyson etc then I'd say that's struggling
     
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Except that he didn't look that bad. He outlanded Chisora in every round except the first two, and visibly rocked him.

    You are buying into a narrative that is out there that is partially caused by by scorecards, but has no basis in reality. Did you even really watch the fight?

    Whyte is demonstrably not much better than Chisora, but you simply aren't getting this. If he has Whyte in there, he would have thrown 60-65 punches a round instead. If he has someone better, he would have thrown 80. He DEMONSTRABLY fights to the level of competition. Like how he threw about 70 a round to beat Breidis, and 80 to beat Gassiev.

    In six months time, Usyk will be WBO heavyweight champion. Good luck with your crying then.
     
  7. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Active Member Full Member

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    Ok back to earth, usyk looked himself slick clever as ever. Usyk is a very good fighter would even consider myself a fan. But for the first time he clearly felt the difference in weight divisions.

    Was rattled more than once and if del can land like that. He's is going to get tagged at some point with the big guns at heavy. But more frequently, usyk is granite, but still think he makes a better cruiser weight. Plus for all his skill don't see him, having the power to put down a top heavy
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, did you watch the fight? It was Chisora that was rattled.

    I can only keep repeating--he has been hit by guys like Majodov and Joyce. Chisora did not bother him. There is some kind mass hysteria going on with this nonsense.

    Go back and watch the fight with a clear mind and the sound off.
     
  9. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Active Member Full Member

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    No I've seen that fight a couple of times mate. He was feeling a few of those, not saying he was totally buzzed. Did slow him up tho, just saying much harder tests round the corner then chisora.

    And is lacking power at heavy. Outstanding fighter yes. Bridge to far possibly. Be interesting to finding out
     
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  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We won't have to wait long. It is probably going to be Usyk Vs Joyce for the WBO belt, and Usyk is going to take it home. Six months from now Usyk will be a titlist again.
     
  11. Spongebob south paw pants

    Spongebob south paw pants Active Member Full Member

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    Ok yeah that's a possibility, Joyce didn't do too bad against him in the amatures tho. Will say Joyce has never had the fastest hands and looks slower these days. Almost tailer made for him, there is no chance usyk puts Joyce on the canvas. Points win for usyk there probably, I'll give you that. See him having problems with AG or Fury if he gets that chance
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think he could beat Fury. both great fighters, but yeah, the size will come into play.

    Joshua..50/50. Classic boxer-puncher matchup. Joshua obviously has the size and power, but Usyk has the defense, stamina, chin and workrate.

    Great fight if it ever happens.
     
  13. Spongebob south paw pants

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    Yep agree with that on the fury front. AG did show in the second Ruiz fight he's worked on his movement a lot, does still carry plenty of power too. Would make a great watch that one
     
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  14. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still due to Usyk's reputation from WBSS as really fast guy, vs slow! Dereck he did not looked impressive.
    Dereck is very slow boxer if compare with Murat, not alone Briedis or Glowacki.
    Glowacki really does beat very hard, not worse than Usyk, Murat or Briedis if he landed properly. No offense the the outpointed him and Murat and he might thank God that Briedis choosed to box with him not clinch and steamroll. He even fall down vs Briedis and barely won fight, exactly last round he clearly lost vs Briedis.
    That's all and Usyk even likes me, he is good boxer and nice guy. This doesn't makes him world beater and so clear division cleaner too he was not so impressive division beater like he is presented in forums. He wasn't and Usyk DID HAD problems with Whiterspoon too.

    Of course, Sir for You.
    You even had compared records repeat play with Usyk in WBSS vs his fights ws Whiterspoon and Chisora?
    Usyk from WBSS was faster and more agile.
    This Usyk version had finished Whiterspoon quickly and stopped also Dereck because Chisora is slow and he had landed on him a lot more than he now landed on Chisora.
     
  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Might happen because forum folks seriously undervalue these CW guys he had just won on cards.
    These were not easy to hit properly because in CW he fought real elite guys.

    Usyk does beat hard but he isn't enough large for HW and looks that even Dorticos and Briedis are more suitable for HW division than he.
    Maybe he is just out of shape. Usyk highly skilled and talented but looks that he isn't like Usyk from WBSS.
    Even vs Whiterspoon too.